August 23rd sales in Europe

Wii U- 18k

X1 - 12k

6k difference is excellent alright.

Globally in the US is real

I can go with that. 

No. 50% more is exelent.

Sure lets asume that the numbers we heard leaked are real.
The x1 bump is due to a free game bundle of a game that only sells in the US. Of course to seece this must mean that it also sold great in europe, for a game that dosent even sell 100k lft in europe.

Lets also compare the new game bundle, on the only place it sells, to a console that has had absolutly nothing for 3 months. This makes a lot of sence.

If the $400 june sku taught us anythng is that when the US expects a discount, they will not buy the console untill that bundle is out, so we could asume that the x1 was selling 15k a week in the US and then sold 115k the last week.

I also see no reason for the wii u to stay up this long based on MK8 alone and a couple of bundles being anounce to come in a couple of weeks. So while being unlikely, the wii u could have sold extremly bad on that last week, since a new bundle was anounced for next month and a big ip just came out for the other consoles. So maybe vgc is on track for august since we dont have the numbers yet for the last week.

One game for the wii u lasted for 3 months doubling the baseline and the x1 has lasted one week with everythiing that came to it and you still think it will sell bad when everything comes this holiday for the wii u? This just shows that nintendo games last a lot more thatn third partys on the x1.

And lastly, one bad month for the wii u and you automatically asume that its confirmed that its been overtracked since june. Well thats the final piece of evidence ovbiously.

Ahh yes, when numbers don’t serve the agenda, move on to the  “%” spin.

Wii U - 21 months on shelves in EU = 1,682,332

X1 – 9 months (staggered release) on shelves in EU = 1,226,391

I know which one I am betting on.

Not when you're talking really low numbers like these...

There is an NPD thread, but it is a disaster as usual.  The person who started it didn't go back and update the OP with the data, he just put it in the title.

Excellent analogy.

Nothing says you can't be friends...................................with benefits

or even better have a harem.

If you read my commet correctly you would have seen that I said "compared to the x1". So I never mooved any goalpost, you where the one who brought numbers into this and where still prooven wrong by your own numbers.

If you consider how fast the  x1 numbers droped off, then I also know who Im beting on.