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Jay70sgamer on 11 September 2014
curl-6 said:
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
curl-6 said:

If Smash Wii U isn't out for this Black Friday, and I expect it won't be, Nintendo can kiss any chance of finishing second this gen goodbye.

Of course, they'd have to be absolute morons to do something so obviously suicidal, but hey, at this point I reckon a brain-damaged lemur could run the company better than the schmucks who do.

You are not the only one saying this. I too believe it to be a suicidal move. Sales in ANY month during the year do not equal holiday sales. Hell, if Smash is 70% done, I would still roll the dice and sell it. It'd still be better than 80% of the games out there.

They have that mentally like they are still #1 in the market having us wait for the game and thinking it will sell at any point during the year. Nintendo is acting like it's in a position to just strut around and have a dick measuring contest with the Sony, Microsoft, and the mobile market, where as of right now they have the shortest stick to measure.

Yeah, you'd think the Wii U's struggles would have taught Nintendo some much-needed humility, but instead they act like they can still afford to take their sweet time on a game that they need NOW. 

They don't seem to get it; they are up shit creek, and if they want to get out of this generation alive, its time to swallow their pride, get down on their knees and do what the consumer wants instead of what they want.

The 3ds and the soon to be new 3ds says hi......just like Sony has the playstation vita  doing poorly nintendo has the wii u not doing as well but if you really look at Nintendos position they are second in the console race and first in handhelds andmaking a profit off every wii u sold nowadays ..they have smash coming out on both systems nintendo is not in as bad shape as people make it out to be just saying ...they will be alright and turn a profit as usual at the end of the generation 



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curl-6 on 11 September 2014
Jay70sgamer said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah, you'd think the Wii U's struggles would have taught Nintendo some much-needed humility, but instead they act like they can still afford to take their sweet time on a game that they need NOW. 

They don't seem to get it; they are up shit creek, and if they want to get out of this generation alive, its time to swallow their pride, get down on their knees and do what the consumer wants instead of what they want.

The 3ds and the soon to be new 3ds says hi......just like Sony has the playstation vita  doing poorly nintendo has the wii u not doing as well but if you really look at Nintendos position they are second in the console race and first in handhelds andmaking a profit off every wii u sold nowadays ..they have smash coming out on both systems nintendo is not in as bad shape as people make it out to be just saying ...they will be alright and turn a profit as usual at the end of the generation 

The 3DS is doing well for the moment, yes, but it's the last of its breed; there's no future for dedicated handhelds beyond this gen. The home console business holds Nintendo's real hope of long term survival, but to compete in this sector they need to aggressively grow their userbase, and the only way to do that is to serve the demands of the consumer instead of their own whims.



Jay70sgamer on 11 September 2014
curl-6 said:
Jay70sgamer said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah, you'd think the Wii U's struggles would have taught Nintendo some much-needed humility, but instead they act like they can still afford to take their sweet time on a game that they need NOW. 

They don't seem to get it; they are up shit creek, and if they want to get out of this generation alive, its time to swallow their pride, get down on their knees and do what the consumer wants instead of what they want.

The 3ds and the soon to be new 3ds says hi......just like Sony has the playstation vita  doing poorly nintendo has the wii u not doing as well but if you really look at Nintendos position they are second in the console race and first in handhelds andmaking a profit off every wii u sold nowadays ..they have smash coming out on both systems nintendo is not in as bad shape as people make it out to be just saying ...they will be alright and turn a profit as usual at the end of the generation 

The 3DS is doing well for the moment, yes, but it's the last of its breed; there's no future for dedicated handhelds beyond this gen. The home console business holds Nintendo's real hope of long term survival, but to compete in this sector they need to aggressively grow their userbase, and the only way to do that is to serve the demands of the consumer instead of their own whims.


How do you figure it's last of its breed by the time it stops selling it may be at 70 or 80 million or more  that's not a last of its breed ...no your wrong Nintendos dominance in the handheld market is where there bread and butter is at ....yes this generation they are not lighting up like the wii but at the end of the day ...which almost everyone forgets nintendo makes a profit ...no home console they ever produced has made a loss and wii u will be profitable at the end of the generation that is almost certain ....nintendo does not worry about finishing first or last as long as they make a profit and keep shareholders happy 



Jay70sgamer on 11 September 2014
Jay70sgamer said:
curl-6 said:
Jay70sgamer said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah, you'd think the Wii U's struggles would have taught Nintendo some much-needed humility, but instead they act like they can still afford to take their sweet time on a game that they need NOW. 

They don't seem to get it; they are up shit creek, and if they want to get out of this generation alive, its time to swallow their pride, get down on their knees and do what the consumer wants instead of what they want.

The 3ds and the soon to be new 3ds says hi......just like Sony has the playstation vita  doing poorly nintendo has the wii u not doing as well but if you really look at Nintendos position they are second in the console race and first in handhelds andmaking a profit off every wii u sold nowadays ..they have smash coming out on both systems nintendo is not in as bad shape as people make it out to be just saying ...they will be alright and turn a profit as usual at the end of the generation 

The 3DS is doing well for the moment, yes, but it's the last of its breed; there's no future for dedicated handhelds beyond this gen. The home console business holds Nintendo's real hope of long term survival, but to compete in this sector they need to aggressively grow their userbase, and the only way to do that is to serve the demands of the consumer instead of their own whims.


How do you figure it's last of its breed by the time it stops selling it may be at 70 or 80 million or more  that's not a last of its breed ...no your wrong Nintendos dominance in the handheld market is where there bread and butter is at ....yes this generation they are not lighting up like the wii but at the end of the day ...which almost everyone forgets nintendo makes a profit ...no home console they ever produced has made a loss and wii u will be profitable at the end of the generation that is almost certain ....nintendo does not worry about finishing first or last as long as they make a profit and keep shareholders happy ..people fall to realize you can't win alll the generations you do well some generations some you don't 





ExplodingBlock on 11 September 2014
photon said:
curl-6 said:

If Smash Wii U isn't out for this Black Friday, and I expect it won't be, Nintendo can kiss any chance of finishing second this gen goodbye.

Of course, they'd have to be absolute morons to do something so obviously suicidal, but hey, at this point I reckon a brain-damaged lemur could run the company better than the schmucks who do.

you do expect, you simply don't want to. it's called bias, haterism...


This is the truth!



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curl-6 on 11 September 2014
Jay70sgamer said:

How do you figure it's last of its breed by the time it stops selling it may be at 70 or 80 million or more  that's not a last of its breed ...no your wrong Nintendos dominance in the handheld market is where there bread and butter is at ....yes this generation they are not lighting up like the wii but at the end of the day ...which almost everyone forgets nintendo makes a profit ...no home console they ever produced has made a loss and wii u will be profitable at the end of the generation that is almost certain ....nintendo does not worry about finishing first or last as long as they make a profit and keep shareholders happy 

It's the last of its breed because smartphone gaming is taking over. That's why 3DS has shrunk so much from the DS.

And as I recall, Nintendo have posted losses for the last few years. To get back on track, they need to stop being complacent and start being proactive. They need to listen to the market instead of just doing their own thing.



Jay70sgamer on 11 September 2014
curl-6 said:
Jay70sgamer said:

How do you figure it's last of its breed by the time it stops selling it may be at 70 or 80 million or more  that's not a last of its breed ...no your wrong Nintendos dominance in the handheld market is where there bread and butter is at ....yes this generation they are not lighting up like the wii but at the end of the day ...which almost everyone forgets nintendo makes a profit ...no home console they ever produced has made a loss and wii u will be profitable at the end of the generation that is almost certain ....nintendo does not worry about finishing first or last as long as they make a profit and keep shareholders happy 

It's the last of its breed because smartphone gaming is taking over. That's why 3DS has shrunk so much from the DS.

And as I recall, Nintendo have posted losses for the last few years. To get back on track, they need to stop being complacent and start being proactive. They need to listen to the market instead of just doing their own thing.


Smartphone gaming is not increasing at a rate whereas handhelds will go away anytime soon also.....they have reported losses quarterly but so has Microsoft and Sony in their  gaming divisions ..... Sony as a company has lost billions in the last few years ....At the end of the day Nintendo has always made a profit on there home consoles every generation .....and will make a profit at the end of this generation because of software not hardware you are forgetting software is where the most money is made not hardware ....nintendo IP's sells in the tens of millions....only problem nintendo is having is droughts if they can consistently put out software ....there problems will be less of a problem ...because Nintendos IP's sell look at mario kart 8 



TheWPCTraveler on 11 September 2014

If they delay this, I will buy a Vita instead of a Wii U to retaliate this holiday season.
If they don't want my money, I'll give it to someone else.

It's just frustrating to see my console of choice this gen to be shot in the feet so many times.



 
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flagstaad on 11 September 2014
curl-6 said:

I'm not getting it either, I've never liked Smash Bros. It's just frustrating seeing Nintendo shoot themselves in the foot over and over, it's like watching your baby brother play a video game really badly and you just want to rip the controller out of his hands and do it right.

I liked the game when it released on gamecube, and I played it for a long time, maybe too long, then my friends started to use it to compete, and that is when I lost interest, I bought Brawl but to be honest I barely used it, I finished the adventure mode and unlock a few secret characters but nothing else, it was not a good investment, and I have zero hype fost this new title.

Nintendo needs different kind of games to expand the audience, like Bayonetta or Fatal Frame. Smash will sell a few secondary consoles to gamers who most likely will not buy many more games on the console.



Vena on 11 September 2014
curl-6 said:

It's the last of its breed because smartphone gaming is taking over. That's why 3DS has shrunk so much from the DS.

And as I recall, Nintendo have posted losses for the last few years. To get back on track, they need to stop being complacent and start being proactive. They need to listen to the market instead of just doing their own thing.


Smartphone gaming is going to collapse in the near future. The whole ecosystem is disastrous and cancerous for actual game developers, and its next to impossible to make a successful expensive title because it will be undercut by derivative rip-offs that work off of the borderline (increasingly in EU) illegal freemium.

Nintendo posted losses because they had been selling both consoles at a loss, and were restructuring as well as investing several hundred billion yen in new facilities for R&D and game development. That has not been the case for a long time now. You are making a basic grade school falacy by trying to somehow tie together entirely seperate cause and affects. Remember, correlation does not imply causation. The 3DS is looking at a smaller market share but its still a large market share, and we have to take into account that it started off terribly because of numerous reasons. There are many things that Nintendo can (and is doing) to make their next handheld system something better than the 3DS.

What's gotten over you? Not only is this thread entirely built on missing the forest for the trees, but now its being filled with nonsensical jargon?