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Ka-pi96 said:

Sony did do wrong. They presented their opinion as the opinion of their entire fanbase, which clearly it isn't. They could have just said 'no comment' or some such no? Can a blunder in an interview like that not be called stupid as well? Is that not why a lot of people say 'no comment' in interviews?

Well they said they didnt feel it was value for money, and as they are working on their own system and have PS+ then they can rightly say that. The whole internet outrage of some users going "Sony deciding on what is value..." was a totally different discussion. I didnt agree with those angry internet people either to be fair. It's a Sony service they can offer whatever they like on it.



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One is MS essentially breaking the law (they are advertising a game Sony and Activision signed a deal on) and the other is Sony choosing not to support EA Access (or so they say). I don't see the similarities.



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Microsoft doesn't have permission from someone to use their product information in advertisements to sell their systems. It's a violation of their trademark.

Sony made a business decision to not open up access to subscription plans because of what they forsee it potentially doing to their ecosystem. No trademark or copyright violations or contraction violations.

However, some people are getting their undies in a bunch thinking, "How dare they insult the company!" Some people are going to complain about anything, so it's probably not worth worrying too much.

Let's look at it though: Microsoft is known for establishing exclusive marketing deals, so to try to weasel outside of it and use someone else's trademark to promote their system when they aren't authorized to do so is "insulting." Sony decided to not make a business arrangement with a company because they didn't believe it was a good deal, and some people think that is "insulting."

I don't think using someone else's creation to promote yourself without permission is the same kind of "insulting" as not entering into a business deal that seems to be bad for your company.



Ka-pi96 said:

So recently Microsoft have stealthily advertised Destiny with perfume, and that has come in for alot of criticism on the internet with some people calling it an insult to Activision/Sony.

Yet not too long ago Sony criticised EA Access by saying it was bad value and they (and all their costomers) didn't want it on their system. This was a more blatant insult to EA/Microsoft. Yet was praised by some.

So is this a case of double standards? Sony get praise for doing something, while Microsoft get attacked for it?

This is a completely different situation. One is childish, the other is good business.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
Ka-pi96 said:

So recently Microsoft have stealthily advertised Destiny with perfume, and that has come in for alot of criticism on the internet with some people calling it an insult to Activision/Sony.

Yet not too long ago Sony criticised EA Access by saying it was bad value and they (and all their costomers) didn't want it on their system. This was a more blatant insult to EA/Microsoft. Yet was praised by some.

So is this a case of double standards? Sony get praise for doing something, while Microsoft get attacked for it?

This is a completely different situation. One is childish, the other is good business.

Don't tell me Sony isnt childish. Trolling ms isn't childish.? 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

Ka-pi96 said:
BMaker11 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
BMaker11 said:

One is making a statement on a value perspective.

The other is finding a shitty loophole to a contract (the type of contract this company has practiced for years) then whining saying "we wanna advertise, but we can't"

Not. The. Same.

You mean a contract that they never signed and have probably never seen? The contract is between Activision and Sony, it's got nothing to do with Microsoft. So if this is indeed using a loophole in the contract who told them about the loophole?

The contract states that only Sony can advertise for the game. Maybe "loophole" is the wrong word, but you know what I mean.

But again, that contract has nothing to do with Microsoft. They didn't technically agree to NOT advertise the game...

The semantics you're trying to pull is akin to Sony/Microsoft buying exlusivity to a game and then the code is outsourced to a different dev because they "didn't technically agree to NOT develop the game", and they develop it on the other console. The contract says "Game X is only on PS/XB" but Other Developer had "nothing to do with" the contract, so they make the game.......even though the deal is that Game X is exclusive.

It may be copyright infringement or some other legal mumbo jumbo, for a 3rd party infringe on a binding contract. Like, if Adidas made Jordan's. Even though only Nike has the rights to make Jordans, Adidas didn't agree NOT to make Jordans. But that wouldn't fly in a court of law



kinisking said:

Don't tell me Sony isnt childish. Trolling ms isn't childish.? 

How is refusing to open PSN up to abuse childish?



 

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Ka-pi96 said:

They aren't all that similar no, but it is the reactions that are being compared here. To be fair, both Sony and Microsoft have gotten both criticism and praise for what they did, it just seems that some people praise one and then criticise the other. Would things be different if Microsoft and Sonys roles were reversed?

No, which is why this thread is pointless.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Maciveli said:
Ka-pi96 said:

No, they aren't really the same. But people seem to be angry about how Microsoft have treated Activision, so did Sony not treat EA badly as well then? Why were people happy about them doing that but angry at Microsoft?


Ms did something stupid and took shit for it like they have been doing so all this gen, nothing new there.  Sony was just blatant about their opinion, for better or for worse they did really nothing wrong.  Some just cant handle brutal honesty, well not some but most these days can't.

Sony did do wrong. They presented their opinion as the opinion of their entire fanbase, which clearly it isn't. They could have just said 'no comment' or some such no? Can a blunder in an interview like that not be called stupid as well? Is that not why a lot of people say 'no comment' in interviews?


No, its their opinion that its the best for their fanbase.  Agree or not they are entitled to it.

MS has no right to do what they did given the contracts in place ones they know damn well them selves as they signed pelnty of them.