I'm very curious to see if Sony will press action on Microsoft about this. Microsoft isn't clearly advertising the game with a picture, but they clearly post about the game in an ad and talk about how they can't advertise it. Even though it's not incredibly direct, it's still advertising the game.

Now i'm not a lawyer so I couldn't say for sure, but i'll be interested to see if it goes anywhere.

Limiting options? You do know that EA will use that service to slowly reduce demos and force you to pay for them?

No i dont know, just like you dont know how much EA are upset about a comment about value for money, I guess i've just made my point ;)

I guess you dont know too much about business and the gaming world...if you did you would probably know that marketting deals that are exclusive are extremely lucrative and very important to the success of a game, but also a great way of saving money (as TV marketting is very expensive).

So what I am saying is (and please dont read between the lines)... from a business point of view... breaking a longstanding agreement with a company which has an exclusive deal is *way* more serious than a company saying *it's not for us*.  Companies can take criticism.. what they do not like is people messing with contracts or money deals.

Please dont take offence at this..but If you dont understand my last paragraph I can only assume you don't work in a business or in a position in a business to understand this.

Win win for them no matter what, they can sue make ms look like fools.  Or go big and leave it be just comment on it how some dont take things seriously and its unfortunete.  

Either way, they benefit and ms is the fool.  

I'm not talking about ea access. Although if you want to I actually made 6 dollars off it already. So abuse isn't the term for it. Stop flicking downplaying just because it's not on your Console or you don't like ea. I'm talking about all the trolling they've done for this past year 

Of course they have. And I'm sure Sony has for Destiny deals they have. MS received criticism over accepting the EA Access thing, Sony for rejecting it. Both companies get criticism for a lot of things they do.

Now swap all the MS and Sony things above and the criticism would be the same.

Ok, so you mean things like the 'sharing games' youtube viideo? That is fine in my eyes and if MS had done that I would have no problem with it at all. This is completely different. On one hand it's childish (like stamping your foot because you didn't get your own way) and on the other it's BAD business practice because they are deliberately going against a contract. Do you think Bungiie will be happy about that?

THIS is MS and always will be. It's the reason they're hated.

That came in for Criticism from the Users.. Sony just said they didnt know and they hoped it would. So again, totally different from the situation people are complaining about. And Yes its still the userbase, but what MS has done in both counts is not particularly good.

We care because this is a gaming discussion forum first and foremost... some people are saying its ok and funny, but others are saying its not ok. That is a good discussion to have.

I personally dont think its ok (the ad was funny but from a business point of view it was wrong to do it). I also thought the TR deal was dodgy too, that was restricting a game that had already had previous games coming out on a platform just because of money, but that wasnt just an MS problem that was a SE problem. I hate those types of exclusivity deals... DLC I dont care as much about... but it is annoying.

And you know this how? Sources. Now. All this is a bunch of conspiracy. And demos never have the full game will early access does. I'm not paying for the demos. I'm not paying for the free games. I'm not paying for the discounts. I'm paying for all of it together. Oh yeah and that Early thing is a bonus

What's the new Sims demo like?