but to be fair, Just Dance aint doing hot either, that series is done

Man you picked the exception to the rule here. The 4 games out of 1000s that have been released had all been ground breaking changes (i,e 2D to 3D, 1000th game based on WW2 suddent becomes modern warfare etc.. which Nintendo gamers missed out on and ended up buying a 360/PS3 for), essentially series reboots to liven up the franchises.  There was also huge hype for those games.

The half decent support you talk of on Wii U was pretty much all late last gen ports and had missing features like DLC. People will arguie DLC is meaninging less, I agree. However to a consumer looking at the comparission between 1 and 2 platforms will feel cheated out on even if they do not intent to get the DLC. They will also start to wonder what else is missing.

If you bothered to actually read all my posts I am not excusing this cause the problem has been growing since N64 days created by many parties not just Nintendo. Wii was abandoned before it even launched so all you got left is bare mimimum core base. As you know you  cannot squeeze blood out of a stone when the core gamers who like those franchises left ages ago.  The remaining adult gamers on that system will be picky in what they buy and essentially most not all only play Nintendo games.

As I said in other posts this problem will take generations to fix to rebuild a new fan base. so 3rd parties cannot expect great results. Nintendo is the only one that can fix this by provding incentives to devs to get those games on their system to satisfy the new kids growing up before they too grow up and leave.

Casual games is also no the answer like Ubisoft claims. Just dance is on the decline. 

Hell look at Nintendo game sales on Wii U and not isolate 3rd party as a bubble. Most of these have sold shit too compared to last gen. Wii U is a failure in general ATM. Only a miracle will turn things around. 

I think this comment best sums up this situation. This is from the article page on VGC posted by Mandalore76:

" So basically, Watch Dogs was released on all systems already but Wii U. 5.5 million people already bought the game. Ubisoft is going to release it on Wii U late, and then point the finger at Wii U owners for not buying it in droves when everybody who wanted the game probably already owns it on another system by now? That's called crafting your own reality. It's like leaving a finished game in a warehouse for 7 months instead of releasing it and then wondering why you posted a loss at the end of the fiscal year. Oh wait, they did that too."

Ubisoft and others developers are creating a self-fulling prophecy with logic like this. They destroying the potential for the games have to sell on Wii U by not releasing on time and then turn around blame it on the Wii U owner.

Its just business guys not an art or anything, he's here to make money so that shareholders are happy and his studios can make bigger better games for gamers so that can he make more ... money. Kind of a shame since i was hoping to buy AC rogue on the Wii u.

I can at least give him credit for not indulging in corp bs.

The problem is that did promote  M Rated games on the Gamecube. They released Eternal Darkness and made a deal with Capcom for the Resident Evil franchise. When Iwata took over for Yamauchi during the GC era, he actively pursued third parties and got little in return. He made a deal for Tales Of, which was supposed to net multiple titles and got Tales of Symphonia in return. He went after Metal Gear and even gave Konami a team to develop it for them and Konami didn't promote the game. "They didn't want it taking away from MGS2 sales", the game didn't even release at the same time. Sega titles sold better on GC on average than did on even PS2. Yet PS2 and Xbox got better support from Sega. They still got gimped 3rd party games. The Splinter Cell games on GC were half assed ports the PS2 version. Despite being more powerful, the GC version of third party games usually often ran the worse, they were often half assed ports of the PS2 version of the games handled by third tier development teams. The Gamecube is the prime example of why Nintendo platforms are where they are now in terms of third party support. Nintendo did what they everyone wants them to do now and handed cash to third parties for support. GC owners bought third party games and  they still got the shaft.

Yup! WiiU owners wil do exactly just that!

Sales don't lie bro. 

Those games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles. 

So by their own logic, No one wants to buy Just Dance on Wii U either. How about we just skip Just Dance on Wii U and bring us Assassin's Creed instead?

there is no difference between the people making "mature" games and the people buying them


didn't Zombie U sell more than just dance on WiiU? so how come they forget that game?

I know that was sarcasm but honestly the way Ubi has treated me as a Nintendo fan I won't be buying any of their games ever again weather that be on Nintendo systems or any other for that matter as I've had enough of their BS!