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NightDragon83 said:
Cobretti2 said:

 

You can't expect Nintend only gamers to just suddenly purchase a 3rd or 4th game in the series without playing the first 2.

This statement has no merit... back during the PS2 days millions of people bought Grand Theft Auto III without ever having even heard of (much less played) the first 2.  This past gen millions of people initially bought games like Call of Duty 4 , Fallout 3, Skyrim (Elder Scrolls V), etc, when they had never played a previous installment of these franchises.  By your logic, Sony and M$ gamers should've ignored these franchises because they never played them before.

Bottom line is this... gamers that game primarily on Sony or M$ consoles do not exclusively play 1st party titles, and are much more open to trying out new games / franchises than Nintendo gamers are... how many times each generation for example do we hear Nintendo fans clamor for the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/Starfox/Pokemon/Kirby/F-Zero etc?  It's almost as if these are the only games they care about... hmmm.

Meanwhile, the Wii U actually gets some halfway-decent 3rd party support initially, launching alongside servicable exclusives like ZombiU and Lego City while getting many of the big AAA franchises like AC and COD, along with enhanced ports of popular titles like Darksiders II and Arkham City... and Nintendo fans respond by completely ignoring these big 3rd party franchises because "they didn't play the other games in the series"?   What?!?


Man you picked the exception to the rule here. The 4 games out of 1000s that have been released had all been ground breaking changes (i,e 2D to 3D, 1000th game based on WW2 suddent becomes modern warfare etc.. which Nintendo gamers missed out on and ended up buying a 360/PS3 for), essentially series reboots to liven up the franchises.  There was also huge hype for those games.

The half decent support you talk of on Wii U was pretty much all late last gen ports and had missing features like DLC. People will arguie DLC is meaninging less, I agree. However to a consumer looking at the comparission between 1 and 2 platforms will feel cheated out on even if they do not intent to get the DLC. They will also start to wonder what else is missing.

If you bothered to actually read all my posts I am not excusing this cause the problem has been growing since N64 days created by many parties not just Nintendo. Wii was abandoned before it even launched so all you got left is bare mimimum core base. As you know you  cannot squeeze blood out of a stone when the core gamers who like those franchises left ages ago.  The remaining adult gamers on that system will be picky in what they buy and essentially most not all only play Nintendo games.

As I said in other posts this problem will take generations to fix to rebuild a new fan base. so 3rd parties cannot expect great results. Nintendo is the only one that can fix this by provding incentives to devs to get those games on their system to satisfy the new kids growing up before they too grow up and leave.

Casual games is also no the answer like Ubisoft claims. Just dance is on the decline. 

Hell look at Nintendo game sales on Wii U and not isolate 3rd party as a bubble. Most of these have sold shit too compared to last gen. Wii U is a failure in general ATM. Only a miracle will turn things around.