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When?

By the end of September. 30 15.23%
 
By the end of October. 13 6.60%
 
By the end of November. 13 6.60%
 
By the end of December. 24 12.18%
 
By the end of January. 15 7.61%
 
By the end of Q1 2014. 11 5.58%
 
By the end of Q2 2014. 17 8.63%
 
By the end of Q3 2014. 6 3.05%
 
Some time after Q3 2014. 25 12.69%
 
Nevaaaaaaaaaa!!! 43 21.83%
 
Total:197
Ninsect said:

Again you are making up your own low numbers. Not helping yourself, bud.


im just showing how ridiculous ur numbers, are



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prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:
 

Again you are making up your own low numbers. Not helping yourself, bud.


im just showing how ridiculous ur numbers, are

By making up new numbers that are way lower? Makes sense



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Ninsect said:
prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:
 

Again you are making up your own low numbers. Not helping yourself, bud.


im just showing how ridiculous ur numbers, are

By making up new numbers that are way lower? Makes sense


not my problem, u doesnt get me.

its obvious what im talking about.

 



prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:

By making up new numbers that are way lower? Makes sense


not my problem, u doesnt get me.

its obvious what im talking about.

 

Okay then, see you on the other side of the massive One boost.



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eva01beserk said:
cpg716 said:
StarMissle said:


You seemd to be confused here. You do realize that the Xbox One was NEVER on sale with the "DRM" and the "everything" else you seem to think they dropped after sales were "horrid". The only change sinse release is the offering a Kinect-less bundle. Even there.. both are still for sale..   

Sales had no bearing on the removal of all the "DRM" or digital based plans. Customer reaction did. Which was changed MONTHS before the Xbox One release.. over 4 months to be exact.

Microsoft has been listening to customers, and Phil Spencer has been a big reason for this. They are adding new features and changing things EVERY SINGLE month based on DIRECT CUSTOMER FEEDBACK. 

ANd last... Sales were not "horrid" The Xbox One is still ahead of X360 at this point in the release. Sales were LOW compared to the PS4. But one could have said why didn't the PS3 and X360 make massive changes when the Wii was outselling both of the by a HUGE margin. It's not always about chasing your competitor. Microsoft's only comparison for their success is the X360 sales, which outsold the OG Xbox. 

Wrong, sales are bad compared to the 360 as well. The x1 only has had a great launch, but monthly it has sold less than the 360 did. At the same point in time the 360 is catching up with it, and its calculated that by this year the 360 will pass it in sales. A great launch alone is not enough, its doing terrible, its the reason for the titanfall+year of live-$50 dollar bundle, the reason for the removal of kicknect the reason for the $75 credit to existing 360 owners to upgrade and all this things have not worked like MS hoped and is still selling really bad.

Um..   You measure sales for a period of 9 months..   Doesn't matter that the X1 sold MORE up front. It is STILL ahead of the X360 as right now. It can't be CALCULATED to reach anything cause people can't predict the future. No matter what is selling montly NOW that could change in 2 months. Game systems do not follow a patter of EXACT sales. The X360 started selling better 3-4 years after it came out.  The reason the X1 sold MORE up front is cause the inventory was there to do so.. So why would people need to buy it the several months out if they got it the first few months..  People keep saying this "X1 sales behind x360 the last few months' but IGNORE the fact that that qantities available for the first few months of the X360 were not even 50% of what was available for the X1.

By the end of 2013 the Xbox One was at 3 million worldwide.. The X360 had sold only 1.5 million.  So that was 1.5 million people who were able to get their new concolse within the first 2 months of release, and not have to wait for better inventory months from then. Also take note that by this time of July the X360 had LAUNCHED in more markets then the XOne has. Yes they are tier 2 countries.. But every country adds sales and the X1 has STILL stayed ahead with being in less countries. But even still. Bigger fact here is that when 3 million people were able to get their consoles right away because of better stock, its obvious they would likely sell less. This with being a console that is MORE MONEY and HAD COMPETITION. That is ANOTHER huge factor peopel FORGET. The X360 had ZERO next-gen compeition. The X1 had 2 consoles to sell up against that were "next-gen".  SO again it manage to OUTSELL the X360 while still having to compete with the PS4 and Wii U.

Yes the PS4 is selling amazingly..  just as the WIi took off with amazing sales..    seems there will always be a "KING"..   Like the PS2 was the generation before last..  But relative to ALL of these things the XOne is selling well..  Maybe not as well as Microsoft hoped... but HISTORICALLY.. it is selling WELL..



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

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cpg716 said:
eva01beserk said:
cpg716 said:


You seemd to be confused here. You do realize that the Xbox One was NEVER on sale with the "DRM" and the "everything" else you seem to think they dropped after sales were "horrid". The only change sinse release is the offering a Kinect-less bundle. Even there.. both are still for sale..   

Sales had no bearing on the removal of all the "DRM" or digital based plans. Customer reaction did. Which was changed MONTHS before the Xbox One release.. over 4 months to be exact.

Microsoft has been listening to customers, and Phil Spencer has been a big reason for this. They are adding new features and changing things EVERY SINGLE month based on DIRECT CUSTOMER FEEDBACK. 

ANd last... Sales were not "horrid" The Xbox One is still ahead of X360 at this point in the release. Sales were LOW compared to the PS4. But one could have said why didn't the PS3 and X360 make massive changes when the Wii was outselling both of the by a HUGE margin. It's not always about chasing your competitor. Microsoft's only comparison for their success is the X360 sales, which outsold the OG Xbox. 

Wrong, sales are bad compared to the 360 as well. The x1 only has had a great launch, but monthly it has sold less than the 360 did. At the same point in time the 360 is catching up with it, and its calculated that by this year the 360 will pass it in sales. A great launch alone is not enough, its doing terrible, its the reason for the titanfall+year of live-$50 dollar bundle, the reason for the removal of kicknect the reason for the $75 credit to existing 360 owners to upgrade and all this things have not worked like MS hoped and is still selling really bad.

Um..   You measure sales for a period of 9 months..   Doesn't matter that the X1 sold MORE up front. It is STILL ahead of the X360 as right now. It can't be CALCULATED to reach anything cause people can't predict the future. No matter what is selling montly NOW that could change in 2 months. Game systems do not follow a patter of EXACT sales. The X360 started selling better 3-4 years after it came out.  The reason the X1 sold MORE up front is cause the inventory was there to do so.. So why would people need to buy it the several months out if they got it the first few months..  People keep saying this "X1 sales behind x360 the last few months' but IGNORE the fact that that qantities available for the first few months of the X360 were not even 50% of what was available for the X1.

By the end of 2013 the Xbox One was at 3 million worldwide.. The X360 had sold only 1.5 million.  So that was 1.5 million people who were able to get their new concolse within the first 2 months of release, and not have to wait for better inventory months from then. Also take not that by this time of July the X360 had LAUNCHED in more markets then the XOne has. Yes they are tier 2 countries.. But every country adds sales and the X1 has STILL stayed ahead with being in less countries. But even still. Bigger fact here is that when 3 million people were able to get their consoles right away because of better stock, its obvious they would likely sell less. This with being a console that is MORE MONEY and HAD COMPETITION. That is ANOTHER huge factor peopel FORGET. The X360 had ZERO next-gen compeition. The X1 had 2 consoles to sell up against that were "next-gen".  SO again it manage to OUTSELL the X360 while still having to compete with the PS4 and Wii U.

Yes the PS4 is selling amazingly..  just as the WIi took off with amazing sales..    seems there will always be a "KING"..   Like the PS2 was the generation before last..  But relative to ALL of these things the XOne is selling well..  Maybe not as well as Microsoft hoped... but HISTORICALLY.. it is selling WELL..

@BOLD: Then you contradict yourself, if stock for the 360 was the real impediment, then the 360 should be a lot higher than the x1. Wich means people wanted to buy the 360 but could not, while people can buy the x1 but dont want to. So its doing much worse.

And yes you are right, people canot predict the future, but seeing trends and people reaction to the product and sales, we can have a pretty good estimate of how a product will react in the future and that estimate tells us that there is nothing coming that will change the current trend and its destined to fall behind. There are huge companies that make billions in predicting the future sales of a product and most of the time they are wright.



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prinz_valium said:

ofc they are. but that doesnt matter, that they will buy a fucking low amount of 3k or even a hell much of 5k consoles for launch.

what are we talking about here? do u guys think ms or sony  would even release in this countries if they cant sell 5000 consoles?

 

im not talking about 5k weekly sales. 5k frontloaded preordered frist week sales.

i just hear every time only the same bullshit.

already available. small markets. no xbox only ps appeal.

 

 

maybe im just the only idiot who does not see that the xbox one will sell a maxium of 900 units for launch in china, korea, russia, the netherlands, sweden, and all the other tier 2 countries.

including the 30k japan launch sales we will see just a 50k xbox one bump form tier 2 in september

 

jesus. i have to leave this thread...

I literally understood none of what you said because your sentences are all jumbled up grammatically and logically.

And no, it's NOT obvious what you're talking about because of the above reasons.



Do you think that after the failure of Xbox One against the PS4, Microsoft will stop the consoles? I really hope not ...



eva01beserk said:
cpg716 said:

Um..   You measure sales for a period of 9 months..   Doesn't matter that the X1 sold MORE up front. It is STILL ahead of the X360 as right now. It can't be CALCULATED to reach anything cause people can't predict the future. No matter what is selling montly NOW that could change in 2 months. Game systems do not follow a patter of EXACT sales. The X360 started selling better 3-4 years after it came out.  The reason the X1 sold MORE up front is cause the inventory was there to do so.. So why would people need to buy it the several months out if they got it the first few months..  People keep saying this "X1 sales behind x360 the last few months' but IGNORE the fact that that qantities available for the first few months of the X360 were not even 50% of what was available for the X1.

By the end of 2013 the Xbox One was at 3 million worldwide.. The X360 had sold only 1.5 million.  So that was 1.5 million people who were able to get their new concolse within the first 2 months of release, and not have to wait for better inventory months from then. Also take not that by this time of July the X360 had LAUNCHED in more markets then the XOne has. Yes they are tier 2 countries.. But every country adds sales and the X1 has STILL stayed ahead with being in less countries. But even still. Bigger fact here is that when 3 million people were able to get their consoles right away because of better stock, its obvious they would likely sell less. This with being a console that is MORE MONEY and HAD COMPETITION. That is ANOTHER huge factor peopel FORGET. The X360 had ZERO next-gen compeition. The X1 had 2 consoles to sell up against that were "next-gen".  SO again it manage to OUTSELL the X360 while still having to compete with the PS4 and Wii U.

Yes the PS4 is selling amazingly..  just as the WIi took off with amazing sales..    seems there will always be a "KING"..   Like the PS2 was the generation before last..  But relative to ALL of these things the XOne is selling well..  Maybe not as well as Microsoft hoped... but HISTORICALLY.. it is selling WELL..

@BOLD: Then you contradict yourself, if stock for the 360 was the real impediment, then the 360 should be a lot higher than the x1. Wich means people wanted to buy the 360 but could not, while people can buy the x1 but dont want to. So its doing much worse.

And yes you are right, people canot predict the future, but seeing trends and people reaction to the product and sales, we can have a pretty good estimate of how a product will react in the future and that estimate tells us that there is nothing coming that will change the current trend and its destined to fall behind. There are huge companies that make billions in predicting the future sales of a product and most of the time they are wright.

HUh? Again.. you are making no sense..   Only so many people buy a console the 1st year of release.  MOST PEOPLE are NOT early adopters.  Because 3 million were able to buy their console quicker then the last generation they did.. Beause the stock was there to do so.  X360 sold HALF of the X1 and continued to run behind until about March..  April-July is where sales of slowed for the X1 when they inscreased for the x360.. Has it meant the X360 has caught up?? NOPE... There is NO contradiction here.. You just aren't understanding. 

Most of the huge companies that predict future sales are not "wright".. or even right most of the time. Windows Phone was predicted to outself iPhone several years back.. by now..  by several different agencies.. NOPE.. I could go on and on about all the predictions that never came to be and were released by the LEADING agencies that do that sort of thing..  but it would be futile. 



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PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

cpg716 said:
eva01beserk said:
cpg716 said:

Um..   You measure sales for a period of 9 months..   Doesn't matter that the X1 sold MORE up front. It is STILL ahead of the X360 as right now. It can't be CALCULATED to reach anything cause people can't predict the future. No matter what is selling montly NOW that could change in 2 months. Game systems do not follow a patter of EXACT sales. The X360 started selling better 3-4 years after it came out.  The reason the X1 sold MORE up front is cause the inventory was there to do so.. So why would people need to buy it the several months out if they got it the first few months..  People keep saying this "X1 sales behind x360 the last few months' but IGNORE the fact that that qantities available for the first few months of the X360 were not even 50% of what was available for the X1.

By the end of 2013 the Xbox One was at 3 million worldwide.. The X360 had sold only 1.5 million.  So that was 1.5 million people who were able to get their new concolse within the first 2 months of release, and not have to wait for better inventory months from then. Also take not that by this time of July the X360 had LAUNCHED in more markets then the XOne has. Yes they are tier 2 countries.. But every country adds sales and the X1 has STILL stayed ahead with being in less countries. But even still. Bigger fact here is that when 3 million people were able to get their consoles right away because of better stock, its obvious they would likely sell less. This with being a console that is MORE MONEY and HAD COMPETITION. That is ANOTHER huge factor peopel FORGET. The X360 had ZERO next-gen compeition. The X1 had 2 consoles to sell up against that were "next-gen".  SO again it manage to OUTSELL the X360 while still having to compete with the PS4 and Wii U.

Yes the PS4 is selling amazingly..  just as the WIi took off with amazing sales..    seems there will always be a "KING"..   Like the PS2 was the generation before last..  But relative to ALL of these things the XOne is selling well..  Maybe not as well as Microsoft hoped... but HISTORICALLY.. it is selling WELL..

@BOLD: Then you contradict yourself, if stock for the 360 was the real impediment, then the 360 should be a lot higher than the x1. Wich means people wanted to buy the 360 but could not, while people can buy the x1 but dont want to. So its doing much worse.

And yes you are right, people canot predict the future, but seeing trends and people reaction to the product and sales, we can have a pretty good estimate of how a product will react in the future and that estimate tells us that there is nothing coming that will change the current trend and its destined to fall behind. There are huge companies that make billions in predicting the future sales of a product and most of the time they are wright.

HUh? Again.. you are making no sense..   Only so many people buy a console the 1st year of release.  MOST PEOPLE are NOT early adopters.  Because 3 million were able to buy their console quicker then the last generation they did.. Beause the stock was there to do so.  X360 sold HALF of the X1 and continued to run behind until about March..  April-July is where sales of slowed for the X1 when they inscreased for the x360.. Has it meant the X360 has caught up?? NOPE... There is NO contradiction here.. You just aren't understanding. 

Most of the huge companies that predict future sales are not "wright".. or even right most of the time. Windows Phone was predicted to outself iPhone several years back.. by now..  by several different agencies.. NOPE.. I could go on and on about all the predictions that never came to be and were released by the LEADING agencies that do that sort of thing..  but it would be futile. 

You seem to be arguing with hopes and dreams as your back up and ignoring everithing else so Im just going to stop then. Good day to you sir.

Later you can telll me how the x1 goes up in sales. By the way numbers are out today, ps4 beat it world wide 3:1 and the wii u beat it by almost 10k. So it seems thouse predictions are still holding up.



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