I dunno. That really helped but the poor reliabilty of the console would have turned many people away from buying the console.

It's going to be close, but I think globally the XBO will fall behind in launch-aligned LTD sales sometime in the first half of next year. The only reason it isn't sooner is because of the XBO's strong launch, as the XBO's 2014 will likely be around 1.5 million less than VGC's estimate for the 360's 2006. As for the U.S., I think it'll take a lot longer. If my projections pan out, the 360 will still be behind by about 500k units. However, I think there's a very good chance that both the XBO and PS4 get big price cuts next year (probably to $300), which should boost sales a large amount, and next year will likely be both system's peaks. If so, then it may take several years for the XBO to fall behind. We do have to remember that annual sales growth of the 360 was relatively flat in the U.S. through 2009 and in Europe through 2007. Globally, though, the XBO should continue to do sufficiently poor outside of Anglosphere countries that it slowly falls behind in 2015, with the gap widening even more quickly in 2016.

Here's my rough LTD projections for the U.S. for the XBO (margins of error expected to be high for 2015 and increasing each subsequent year) compared to NPD actuals for the 360:

Now here's global XBO projections (which assume that the U.S. represents two-thirds of all annual sales), compared to VGC estimates for the 360:

Note that I don't project XBO sales past 2018 because we'd be getting close to the ninth-gen launch, which complicates things.

I think that would have been offset by the double dipping of people that through circumstances ,timing etc bought a replacement themselves .

Averages mean nothing. There are some tiny markets there that will lower it a lot.

ofc. and bigger ones that will increase it a lot.

china, russia, korea, netherlands and sweden will each sell over 2,1k launch week

You really don't know the nature of these markets, do you? China and Korea are PC countries and China especially likes MMOs. Also, the X1 is already being sold in the other countries you've mentioned via imports/grey market. Whoever wanted an X1 over there already got one. Also, the PS4 will have been out in those countries for nearly a year and thus, have already established a strong reputation and mindshare among those markets. The consumers won't sponaneously change their mind and grab an X1 because that's not how consumers think.

You seemd to be confused here. You do realize that the Xbox One was NEVER on sale with the "DRM" and the "everything" else you seem to think they dropped after sales were "horrid". The only change sinse release is the offering a Kinect-less bundle. Even there.. both are still for sale..   

Sales had no bearing on the removal of all the "DRM" or digital based plans. Customer reaction did. Which was changed MONTHS before the Xbox One release.. over 4 months to be exact.

Microsoft has been listening to customers, and Phil Spencer has been a big reason for this. They are adding new features and changing things EVERY SINGLE month based on DIRECT CUSTOMER FEEDBACK. 

ANd last... Sales were not "horrid" The Xbox One is still ahead of X360 at this point in the release. Sales were LOW compared to the PS4. But one could have said why didn't the PS3 and X360 make massive changes when the Wii was outselling both of the by a HUGE margin. It's not always about chasing your competitor. Microsoft's only comparison for their success is the X360 sales, which outsold the OG Xbox. 

ofc they are. but that doesnt matter, that they will buy a fucking low amount of 3k or even a hell much of 5k consoles for launch.

what are we talking about here? do u guys think ms or sony  would even release in this countries if they cant sell 5000 consoles?

im not talking about 5k weekly sales. 5k frontloaded preordered frist week sales.

i just hear every time only the same bullshit.

already available. small markets. no xbox only ps appeal.

maybe im just the only idiot who does not see that the xbox one will sell a maxium of 900 units for launch in china, korea, russia, the netherlands, sweden, and all the other tier 2 countries.

including the 30k japan launch sales we will see just a 50k xbox one bump form tier 2 in september

jesus. i have to leave this thread...