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DonFerrari said:
bouboumorveu said:
It is really time for VGC to stop overtracking One and untertracking PS4. Whay this? Is M$ a VGC sponsor? How many $ give M$ every month to vgc? need response.


The thing is that last gen X360 sold more than PS3 on USA and they still haven't corrected their algorithm for this so we still have a big deviation... but since this was already complained several times in this thread I don't think it's necessary.


This is very true. Retailers are faster though, both of the Walmart stores near me have cut down the XB1 areas already. They used to have one case dedicated to XB1 games and one half case dedicated to the console. Now they've consolidated to a single case that is partially full of 360 and accessories as well (iow about half the shelf space as before). PS4 has grown a bit, vita shrank, U is bigger, Wii almost gone, ps360 the same except a couple extra rows in the former xb1 case. The endcap new game case also no longer has any X1 in it.



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Arkaign said:
DonFerrari said:
bouboumorveu said:
It is really time for VGC to stop overtracking One and untertracking PS4. Whay this? Is M$ a VGC sponsor? How many $ give M$ every month to vgc? need response.


The thing is that last gen X360 sold more than PS3 on USA and they still haven't corrected their algorithm for this so we still have a big deviation... but since this was already complained several times in this thread I don't think it's necessary.


This is very true. Retailers are faster though, both of the Walmart stores near me have cut down the XB1 areas already. They used to have one case dedicated to XB1 games and one half case dedicated to the console. Now they've consolidated to a single case that is partially full of 360 and accessories as well (iow about half the shelf space as before). PS4 has grown a bit, vita shrank, U is bigger, Wii almost gone, ps360 the same except a couple extra rows in the former xb1 case. The endcap new game case also no longer has any X1 in it.

Well retailers really depend on good forecast to profit. VGC can let itself be wrong and adjust every NPD, shipping report etc. I don't know how much customers pay for the data and if they know the reliability of it.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

1M is really big, cant forget that



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Aerys said:
1M is really big, cant forget that


What is worst is 1M overtrack on a real sales of 2.1M... that means 50% overtracking on LTD and that is massive.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Aerys said:
1M is really big, cant forget that


What is worst is 1M overtrack on a real sales of 2.1M... that means 50% overtracking on LTD and that is massive.


It just cant be, i'll start to think like those you think this site has an agenda,  vg chartz doesnt deserve any trust



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Aerys said:
DonFerrari said:
Aerys said:
1M is really big, cant forget that


What is worst is 1M overtrack on a real sales of 2.1M... that means 50% overtracking on LTD and that is massive.


It just cant be, i'll start to think like those you think this site has an agenda,  vg chartz doesnt deserve any trust


Hahahaha no need for drama. The numbers aren't too much reliable but I don't think it is based on an agenda... Unless you think the site try to always put above real numbers for X1/X360 and them stealth edit. But them the LTD would always see strange not moving at all.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

There's no agenda, just some people taking the numbers that VGC give too seriously and then being shocked when they are wrong :D. They do the best they can but don't ever rely on them.



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Madword said:
There's no agenda, just some people taking the numbers that VGC give too seriously and then being shocked when they are wrong :D. They do the best they can but don't ever rely on them.


If it's the best they can, better to find an other job because they are really lame at this, it's Pachter level



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Aerys said:
Madword said:
There's no agenda, just some people taking the numbers that VGC give too seriously and then being shocked when they are wrong :D. They do the best they can but don't ever rely on them.


If it's the best they can, better to find an other job because they are really lame at this, it's Pachter level

Then you wouldnt be able to come to this site and discuss sales. :)

Personally I dont give too hoots if they are wrong, it's funny seeing people defending the numbers and then getting to the real numbers. I come here for the general sales discussion, which if far more interesting. Also the do collate and update when the sales are announced, so overall we then do get a more accurate historical website, which can be useful



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