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DerNebel on 03 August 2014
WebMasterFlex said:
DerNebel said:
WebMasterFlex said:
This site overtrack Xbox consoles too often. Who are doing this ? I read on other website that this site is owned by pro Xbox dudes. This kind of news do not say otherwise.

Take your tin foil hat off, this site makes estimates and estimates aren't always accurate, simple as that.


Estimates often adventage xbox consoles. Just saying...

Of course...I guess that's why the 360 was undertracked by over a million units for who knows how long.



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WebMasterFlex on 03 August 2014
DerNebel said:
WebMasterFlex said:
DerNebel said:
WebMasterFlex said:
This site overtrack Xbox consoles too often. Who are doing this ? I read on other website that this site is owned by pro Xbox dudes. This kind of news do not say otherwise.

Take your tin foil hat off, this site makes estimates and estimates aren't always accurate, simple as that.


Estimates often adventage xbox consoles. Just saying...

Of course...I guess that's why the 360 was undertracked by over a million units for who knows how long.

You mean overtracked by 1 million in Germany ?



DerNebel on 03 August 2014
WebMasterFlex said:
DerNebel said:

Of course...I guess that's why the 360 was undertracked by over a million units for who knows how long.

You mean overtracked by 1 million in Germany ?

Yeah and at the same time undertracked even more in other parts of the world. Vgchartz tracking outside of the US and Japan is just pretty sketchy.



WebMasterFlex on 03 August 2014

Inside US too is "just pretty sketchy". Won't talk again about NPD

I see a lot of MS consoles overtracked, but not many Sony/Nintendo consoles overtracked.



COX on 03 August 2014
DerNebel said:

Eh, Nintendo was popular with the Wii everywhere, but that success is not something that they can just repeat like that as they've shown, actually I'd wager that the probability of MS or anyone else creating another success like the Wii was is about as high as Nintendo recreating it.

As for NES ans SNES, these are the total hardware sales of those according to vgchartz:

             
10 Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) 33.49 8.30 19.35 0.77 61.91
11 Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) 22.88 8.15 17.17 0.90 49.10

It was really only the PS1 that brought console gaming to the masses in Europe

4 PlayStation (PS) 38.94 36.91 19.36 9.04 104.25

I dind't know that NES and Snes numbers in europe were so low. It's probably because almost all my cousins had a NES/SNES. Thanks for the explanation .  I should check the numbers next time but I was sure that the numbers for these two consoles were much higher. 



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DonFerrari on 03 August 2014
COX said:
DerNebel said:

Eh, Nintendo was popular with the Wii everywhere, but that success is not something that they can just repeat like that as they've shown, actually I'd wager that the probability of MS or anyone else creating another success like the Wii was is about as high as Nintendo recreating it.

As for NES ans SNES, these are the total hardware sales of those according to vgchartz:

             
10 Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) 33.49 8.30 19.35 0.77 61.91
11 Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) 22.88 8.15 17.17 0.90 49.10

It was really only the PS1 that brought console gaming to the masses in Europe

4 PlayStation (PS) 38.94 36.91 19.36 9.04 104.25

I dind't know that NES and Snes numbers in europe were so low. It's probably because almost all my cousins had a NES/SNES. Thanks for the explanation :) . 


sometimes what we assume doesn't hold in reality... I also tought N64 and GC sold good because most of my friends had it and talked about it... just when I started coming here (after I bought PS3 I discovered here) I saw what a massacre PS1 and PS2 done.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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prinz_valium on 03 August 2014
DerNebel said:
WebMasterFlex said:


Estimates often adventage xbox consoles. Just saying...

Of course...I guess that's why the 360 was undertracked by over a million units for who knows how long.


if x360 is overtracked 1 million in germany, it has to be undertracked 1 million some where else

becaus we know the offical shipped numbers form microsoft. some where north of 84m



MikeRox on 03 August 2014
kowenicki said:
When will people accept that its the Rest of World numbers that are way off on this site for PS3 and 360. Unless of course you want to say there are 4m on shelves.

The site makes arbitrary adjustments to euro and us numbers to take up the slack from most recent shipped numbers. Shipped numbers aren't lies, they aren't estimates.... They are official. The increase in Rest of World take up has gradually eroded accuracy on this site over the years.


It baffles me when people cling to numbers from this site for Europe etc when discussing "flops/victories" because until we get dribs and drabs of information like this, there is no realistic way anyone could track the sales accurately. It's all guess work. Sometimes it's pretty close, other times (as with 360 in Germany) it's miles off. We should take it for what it is, a general indicator.



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

MikeRox on 03 August 2014
COX said:
DerNebel said:

Eh, Nintendo was popular with the Wii everywhere, but that success is not something that they can just repeat like that as they've shown, actually I'd wager that the probability of MS or anyone else creating another success like the Wii was is about as high as Nintendo recreating it.

As for NES ans SNES, these are the total hardware sales of those according to vgchartz:

             
10 Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) 33.49 8.30 19.35 0.77 61.91
11 Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) 22.88 8.15 17.17 0.90 49.10

It was really only the PS1 that brought console gaming to the masses in Europe

4 PlayStation (PS) 38.94 36.91 19.36 9.04 104.25

I dind't know that NES and Snes numbers in europe were so low. It's probably because almost all my cousins had a NES/SNES. Thanks for the explanation .  I should check the numbers next time but I was sure that the numbers for these two consoles were much higher. 


Europe was a 3 way split between the home computers (Atari ST and Amiga 500 etc were pretty big as gaming platforms in the early 90s) and SEGA also had a solic market share with the Mega Drive. Nintendo has never really cracked Europe in the way it has other parts of the world apart from with the DS and Wii.



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

OttoniBastos on 03 August 2014
prinz_valium said:
DerNebel said:
WebMasterFlex said:
 


Estimates often adventage xbox consoles. Just saying...

Of course...I guess that's why the 360 was undertracked by over a million units for who knows how long.


if x360 is overtracked 1 million in germany, it has to be undertracked 1 million some where else

becaus we know the offical shipped numbers form microsoft. some where north of 84m


Maybe microsoft overshipped 360 in third world countries with hope that they would buy.(this countries usually are the last ones to jump)