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noname2200 on 24 July 2014

I appreciate this thread: it lets me know the arbitrary and meaningless standards folks who claim they're not making new IPs are using. Now their words are a hair above the teacher's voice in Charlie Brown cartoons! Now we're communicating!!!



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carlos3189 on 24 July 2014

Hey, Nintendo actually has new IPs... Now let's find other excuse just to hate on Nintendo! C'mon guys, u can do better than that!



Dusk on 24 July 2014
Raziel123 said:
Reading the names makes the number a lot less impressive.

Why? Not every new IP can be a hit. 



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Dusk on 24 July 2014
Soundwave said:

It's not bad, but at the same time, I can't help but think they'd probably be better off making half that number but making new IP that are more marketable.

A lot of these concepts are pretty much destined to niche-ville.

You'd be better off investing in one new type of IP that goes on to become like an Uncharted or something. 

Riiiiiight. Don't diversify, put all your eggs in one basket. That way if it fails you won't be around any longer to do it. 

You can't always count on something being a hit, no matter what it is. COD as big as it is could fall off really bad because of IP fatigue, where will that leave Activision? Skylanders... But that's why they are still trying to create other IP's like Destiny (even though it's rather similar to COD in many ways). Or Ubisoft with AC Unity (ten studios working on that game) but also created WatchDogs and The Crew. I still think both of these companies could do more to diversify personally because their IP's are too similar. Activison could go under if people stop buying FPS games. Of course you also have to know the audience you are going after. 



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Dusk on 24 July 2014
Zekkyou said:

The issue isn't them simply making new IP, it's a matter of them making something of note than can stand next to Zelda, Mario, DK, Smash etc. Not Nintendogs or the Wii series.

The same goes for Sony. When people say "we want new PS4 IP", they aren't asking for more SingStar, EyePets or Buzz. They want major titles in the vein of UC, LBP, TLOU, inFamous etc.

That's something Nintendo have been pretty poor about the last decade (though their pre-existing IP have been excellent in that time).

Also, it would be more accurate to say Nintendo were involved in the making of 71 new IP. Many games on that list were developed by 3rd parties with Nintendo helping.

Nintendo still owns the rights to them, so they are Nintendo intellectual properties.



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VanceIX on 24 July 2014
KLXVER said:
VanceIX said:

Oh really?

Batallion Wars hasn't seen a sequel since '07 - Fair enough

Chibi-Robo hasn't seen one since '09 (two sequels, one only in Japan) Nope - Chibi-Robo! Photo Finder in 2014

Art Style hasn't seen one since '09 - Nope 2010

Xenoblade Chronicles is NOT a Nintendo-created franchise - Yes, it is

Endless Ocean hasn't seen one since '09 - Fair enough

Golden Sun saw one in '10 after almost 8 years since the last - 4 Years

Kururin hasn't seen one since '05 - Fair enough

Starfy hasn't seen one since '08 - Fair enough

Rythem Tengoku hasn't seen one since 2011 - 3 years

Nintendogs hasn't since 2011 - 3 years

Big Brain Academy hasn't since 2007 - Fair enough

Brain Age I'll give you

Elite Beat Agents hasn't seen one since 2007 - Fair enough

Trace Memory hasn't seen one since '09 - Fair enough

Fossil Fighters Frontier I'll give you

Steel Diver is a horrible game with an even worse F2P sequel, and was developed in conjunction with an outside team. - So?

Pushmo I'll give you

Dillon's Rolling Western is terribad, along with its barebone sequel - So?

 

So, the majority of the games you listed had the last game in the series come out 5 or more years ago (usually more). The few that survive to now are usually very small titles, many download-only, and most have terrible metacritic scores.

But yeah, let's end this.

 

 

 

 


Still not bad. Several of the Sony games are older as well.

I'll agree there. Nintendo has some great IPs, don't get me wrong. They have built the greatest franchises over decades. It's just in recent years they've been throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if it sticks. It's not a bad strategy at all, we've gotten Animal Crossing and Pikmin out of it. It's just that the vast majority of the game inevitably suck. It's the same with most devs, Nintendo just has a slightly worse percentage in recent years.



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Dusk on 24 July 2014
mZuzek said:

So, let's make the real list now, considering only the REAL IPs.
Which means "Cooking guide! Can't decide what to eat?" is not included.
IPs in bold are the ones that spawned several games and revolve around actual characters (which means the Wii Series is not in bold).

Pikmin
Eternal Darkness
Animal Crossing
Wii Series
Endless Ocean
Pandora's Tower
Xenoblade Chronicles
The Last Story
The Wonderful 101
Splatoon
Golden Sun
Nintendogs
Brain Age
Art Academy
Codename: S.T.E.A.M.
Steel Diver
Tomodachi Life
Pushmo
Dillon's Rolling Western

Pushmo and Dillon's Rolling Western in italic because even though they have their own characters and at least 2 games each, they consist only of eShop titles, so can we really consider them?


I find it very funny how you cut out a bunch of IP's to your choosing. The point of the list is just to show that Nintendo has created and owns these intelectual properties. Success has nothing to do with if they own them and or created them or not. Each and every development studio will have lists like this. 

What does "revolve around characters" or "spawned sequels" have to do with an intelectual property? Perhaps you should make a list stating something along the lines of 'successful IP's that are character centric' as opposed to your "REAL IPs" list. 

BTW, Brain Age was VERY successful and it had sequels. Unless of course you don't count 20 and 15 million sales successful...



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RepedeGoesWoof on 24 July 2014
Dusk said:
Raziel123 said:
Reading the names makes the number a lot less impressive.

Why? Not every new IP can be a hit. 


When you have games like 

  • Bonsai Barber
  • Rock N’ Roll Climber
  • PictureBook Games: Pop-Up Pursuit
  • You, Me and the Cubes
  • Eco Shooter: Plant 530
  • Snowpack Park
  • ThruSpace
  • Line Attack Heroes
  • Fluidity
71 is a nice number, but you really shouldn't have included these games. Nintendo didn't make these.
People want new in-house Nintendo-developed IPs (like Xenoblade or W101) rather than projects they decided to pick up on the whim.


Dusk on 24 July 2014
VanceIX said:
A lot of those franchises are dead. Making a franchise is easy, investing in it and keeping it afloat is hard.


Right, but why would you try to keep something afloat if it isn't successful? Practice in futility?



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RepedeGoesWoof on 24 July 2014
Dusk said:
VanceIX said:
A lot of those franchises are dead. Making a franchise is easy, investing in it and keeping it afloat is hard.


Right, but why would you try to keep something afloat if it isn't successful? Practice in futility?

That was his point, dude.