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Two niche games on one console from a brand that doesn't a good track record with third party nor attracting their fanbase to third party. Bayonetta will barely scratch 1 M lifetime and Devil Third will probably hit 700k at the most.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Two niche games on one console from a brand that doesn't a good track record with third party nor attracting their fanbase to third party. Bayonetta will barely scratch 1 M lifetime and Devil Third will probably hit 700k at the most.


I would take those two over another COD, Battlefield or Assassins Creed any day of the week.



KLXVER said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Two niche games on one console from a brand that doesn't a good track record with third party nor attracting their fanbase to third party. Bayonetta will barely scratch 1 M lifetime and Devil Third will probably hit 700k at the most.


I would take those two over another COD, Battlefield or Assassins Creed any day of the week.


I understand this. I did write a predicted sale didn't I? I guess you would be one of those people. Look at the sales of the genre, franchises, publishers, developers and how many consoles their games have sold on. Bayonetta took two consoles to have good sales on and didnt even reach the proper end result for Sega to make a profit. Bayonetta is about to launch an exclusive on a platform thats untested with by far the worst third party support of all of the big three. If this doesn't make sense to you at all, you really need to take deep, hard look at the industry as it is today when it comes to Platinum Games and Tecmo.



Ka-pi96 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Two niche games on one console from a brand that doesn't a good track record with third party nor attracting their fanbase to third party. Bayonetta will barely scratch 1 M lifetime and Devil Third will probably hit 700k at the most.


If they managed the budget well then that can still be profitable, especially since it's an exclusive. If they don't sell huge numbers it won't matter too much, it is a start and something to build upon in the future.


Nintendo is going to take the financial hit for Bayonetta. They need diversity. A platinum games title isn't going to have very much success on one console and least of all its on a console with consumers who don't regularly support third party. Nintendo put Bayonetta on life support because Nintendo and western devs havent seen eye to eye in years. Ubisoft tried to help Nintendo and couldn't turn a profit on their exclusive for the U with Zombi U. 



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S.T.A.G.E. said:


I understand this. I did write a predicted sale didn't I? I guess you would be one of those people. Look at the sales of the genre, franchises, publishers, developers and how many consoles their games have sold on. Bayonetta took two consoles to have good sales on and didnt even reach the proper end result for Sega to make a profit. Bayonetta is about to launch an exclusive on a platform thats untested with by far the worst third party support of all of the big three. If this doesn't make sense to you at all, you really need to take deep, hard look at the industry as it is today when it comes to Platinum Games and Tecmo.


Those usually dont sell as well because they dont have miliions upon millions of dollars put into marketing them. I do look very much into the industry and while you look at what game sold the most, I look for games that interest me.



KLXVER said:
Experimental42 said:
KLXVER said:
Well they could help Crytek out I guess...


What does crytek even have left worth saving?


Well they have Homeland 2 and Crysis...

Those series are wotrhless, just save Crytek UK and get Timesplitters IP :P



Experimental42 said:
KLXVER said:
Well they could help Crytek out I guess...


What does crytek even have left worth saving?


Depends on who you ask really. I think a lot of people hate Crytek because of EA hate since they were publishing Crytek's games. For my part, I thought they were a good developer and I liked the Crysis games. 



 

KLXVER said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I understand this. I did write a predicted sale didn't I? I guess you would be one of those people. Look at the sales of the genre, franchises, publishers, developers and how many consoles their games have sold on. Bayonetta took two consoles to have good sales on and didnt even reach the proper end result for Sega to make a profit. Bayonetta is about to launch an exclusive on a platform thats untested with by far the worst third party support of all of the big three. If this doesn't make sense to you at all, you really need to take deep, hard look at the industry as it is today when it comes to Platinum Games and Tecmo.


Those usually dont sell as well because they dont have miliions upon millions of dollars put into marketing them. I do look very much into the industry and while you look at what game sold the most, I look for games that interest me.

Stop focusing on the self. You're psychologically directing my point towards yourself. I am talking about the market and the industry. The hack n slash market outside of God of War is dwindling. 

I present to you the sales of the last Platinum exclusive to launch on a Nintendo console exclusively.

I rest my case.

The Wonderful 101 2013 Action Nintendo 0.12 0.05 0.05 0.01 0.22


S.T.A.G.E. said:

Stop focusing on the self. You're psychologically directing my point towards yourself. I am talking about the market and the industry. The hack n slash market outside of God of War is dwindling. 

I present to you the sales of the last Platinum exclusive to launch on a Nintendo console exclusively.

I rest my case.

The Wonderful 101 2013 Action Nintendo 0.12 0.05 0.05 0.01 0.22


Im not sure what you are trying to prove here. Should Nintendo invest in FPSs or whatever is popular atm?