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My two cents for future games:

While this would be a little more work for everyone involved, I believe that there are some changes that need to be made (or that I want to be made) to make these games better and more fair. First of all, I think making players include a reason why they are voting the way they are would be a good course of action to generate more discussion. However, this may become a bit of a mess if it remains a free for all, so some sort of tiering system may work best, at least in the beginning. If you pitted a few games against each other each day, and only allowed one vote per day, that would encourage discussion and keep the game from being washed by over-enthusiastic fans. Doing this, you could get it so maybe the top two Nintendo games/Sony games/MS games/3rd party games made it into the finals before they started fighting each other...

Take a look at this thread (most notably the How it Works section) for more details on what I think the game should be like (although, I would encourage you to tweak it and make it your own): http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-844021/2013-battle



HylianSwordsman said:

This seems excessive to me. It's not like telling people to vote Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony will change anything. If the people were going to do so, they'd have done so whether someone requested them to or not. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with saying "NO! (insert game here) can't lose this soon! Don't let it die yet!" or something to that effect. If we have to keep adding rules and making it really serious to the point that you can't even chat about the state of the game, that to me takes the fun out. It's a stupid, silly forum game. It means nothing. It's an amusing pastime, that is all. Trying to make it serious ruins the entire point. These games are NOT a way to determine which game/system/company/whatever is better, or even which is most popular among the community. The results say absolutely nothing about the games in question beyond the general tastes of the users that participated. The game is layered with too many variables and potential for strategizing (not even necessarily with other people, there's plenty you can do by yourself) for it to be an even remotely objective measurement of anything beyond a vague opinion of the participants. Complicating the rules won't change that simple fact, it'll just make the game less fun.

Besides, I only ever hear requests like that come from the "losers" of these games, and the losers often employed the same strategies.

You can promote a certain game all you want in the elimination thread itself. Posting on walls and other threads about the game is a bit excessive to me. If the people aren't bothering to enter the thread to vote themselves, and are only voting because of a wall post, that's not exactly fair...



sundin13 said:

My two cents for future games:

While this would be a little more work for everyone involved, I believe that there are some changes that need to be made (or that I want to be made) to make these games better and more fair. First of all, I think making players include a reason why they are voting the way they are would be a good course of action to generate more discussion. However, this may become a bit of a mess if it remains a free for all, so some sort of tiering system may work best, at least in the beginning. If you pitted a few games against each other each day, and only allowed one vote per day, that would encourage discussion and keep the game from being washed by over-enthusiastic fans. Doing this, you could get it so maybe the top two Nintendo games/Sony games/MS games/3rd party games made it into the finals before they started fighting each other...

A tier system? I guess that would work to eliminate bias but what if the top 2 people like are in the same round? One would have to be eliminated soon. I'd probably do it if I actually did another game where all games are counted.



 

The Results

 

  • #20: Call Of Duty
  • #19: Fable
  • #18: Gears Of War
  • #17: Forza
  • #16: Alan Wake
  • #15: Halo
  • #14: LittleBigPlanet 
  • #13: Uncharted
  • #12: Grand Theft Auto
  • #11: Gran Turismo
  • #10: InFamous
  • #9: God Of War
  • #8: Resident Evil
  • #7: Fallout
  • #6: Super Smash Bros.
  • #5: Pokemon
  • #4: Metal Gear Solid
  • #3: Super Mario
  • #2: Metroid
  • Winner: The Legend Of Zelda (With over 110 points remaining)


What this really shows is what company has the most fans on vgc. Sounds about right, Nintendo in first, Sony in second and MS in third. Nintendo fans are by far the most vocal majority on this site.



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SWORDF1SH said:

What this really shows is what company has the most fans on vgc. Sounds about right, Nintendo in first, Sony in second and MS in third. Nintendo fans are by far the most vocal majority on this site.

I think we have plenty of Sony fans on this site as well. None of them care to vote though sadly :(



SWORDF1SH said:


What this really shows is what company has the most fans on vgc. Sounds about right, Nintendo in first, Sony in second and MS in third. Nintendo fans are by far the most vocal majority on this site.


Is that why the PS2 took first place in the  "best console of all time" one we did and the Sega Genesis came in second?



*Sound Of Rain said:

You can promote a certain game all you want in the elimination thread itself. Posting on walls and other threads about the game is a bit excessive to me. If the people aren't bothering to enter the thread to vote themselves, and are only voting because of a wall post, that's not exactly fair...


Oh, so I did interpret you correctly.  You didn't mean banter between people in the actual game thread; you meant people going to other threads and such to try and rally others to the game thread to vote a certain way?  If that's what you meant then yes, I agree completely - that shouldn't be allowed.

Regarding the idea of giving a reason for your vote, and only allowing one per day... hmm... honestly, I think we're going to end up making these games prohibitively long if we do that sort of thing.  Also, don't forget that not everyone has played everything.  There are times that, quite honestly, I don't have any particular reason for a certain vote - I'll often find that there are games I want to vote up, and what's left I'm not really familiar with.  But in order to upvote my favourites, I also have to downvote something, and ultimately, I just have to pick one.



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KLXVER said:
SWORDF1SH said:


What this really shows is what company has the most fans on vgc. Sounds about right, Nintendo in first, Sony in second and MS in third. Nintendo fans are by far the most vocal majority on this site.


Is that why the PS2 took first place in the  "best console of all time" one we did and the Sega Genesis came in second?


Good point, btw I wasn't having a go at Nintendo fans by saying the outnumber the rest. I notice that there are more Ninty fans on here but I find them by far the best fans to talk with out of the 3 major console fans.



*Sound Of Rain said:
sundin13 said:

My two cents for future games:

While this would be a little more work for everyone involved, I believe that there are some changes that need to be made (or that I want to be made) to make these games better and more fair. First of all, I think making players include a reason why they are voting the way they are would be a good course of action to generate more discussion. However, this may become a bit of a mess if it remains a free for all, so some sort of tiering system may work best, at least in the beginning. If you pitted a few games against each other each day, and only allowed one vote per day, that would encourage discussion and keep the game from being washed by over-enthusiastic fans. Doing this, you could get it so maybe the top two Nintendo games/Sony games/MS games/3rd party games made it into the finals before they started fighting each other...

A tier system? I guess that would work to eliminate bias but what if the top 2 people like are in the same round? One would have to be eliminated soon. I'd probably do it if I actually did another game where all games are counted.

Well you either have to go through the work of setting up the tiering by redoing the "best of first party" threads that you did a few years ago, or do internal tiering (say, put the top 5 Nintendo games against each other and have the top two move onto finals etc). Additionally, you could throw together similar games to see which comes out on top before throwing whoever is left into the finals.

My bigger point was that I think we should make people include a reason for voting the way they are to promote discussion.

Basically, the point of threads like this is to have fun, not to decide what series is actually the best, so implementing too many rules to make it "fair" kinda ruins that. I think that promoting discussion would make these games more fun, and if tiering is the way to do that, so be it. Overall, it doesn't really matter who wins, and it matters even less who comes in second, third etc. That forum game that I linked was probably the most fun I've ever had on forums and I got into a good number of in depth conversations about why I like/dont like certain anime...I think that is what you should strive to be. Of course it is your decision, but I think it would be the best route to go down...