double thread

If I Google both right now I get a page one LoU Season Pass related search, and absolutely nothing about a "War Games pass" for the other. Either way this is irrelevant, honest and complete comparisons are a must.

You found an auction on Ebay that already ended for a used copy of Halo 3, yet are using the retail price of Last of Us for some odd reason. In a few seconds using the same website I found Last of Us with free shipping for $12 recently won in an auction. I guess that makes LoU value $12? So we're now down to $32 value for LoU when you add on the $20 Season Pass, since you can find it on Ebay for $12 shipped. Gotcha. So Sony is only marking it up $18 for 1080p60. Lets take your logic and apply the math to Halo 3 and Halo 4, shall we?

Halo 3 Ebay auction: $6.50 shipped + $18 1080p60 upcharge from LoU = $24.50. Plus $17 worth of DLC = $41.50
Halo 4 Ebay auction: $10 shipped + $18 1080p60 upcharge from LoU = $28. Plus $35 worth of DLC ($25 for War Games pass, $10 for Champions bundle which AFAIK is separate) = $63.

So for Halo 3 and Halo 4 alone you are looking at $104.50 going by your logic. Add in your Ebay auction price of $14.50 shipped for Halo CE Anniversary add on the $18 1080p60 upcharge, and you're looking at $137. Wow. Thanks for opening our eyes to the true value the Halo Collection includes.

It's not just Halo 2. The collection is the first time you can actually play Halo CE MP. That's a huge draw for many as well.

lol it's not "splitting hairs". The anniversary edition only includes some of the maps, and they are all done in the Reach engine and remade to take its gameplay into account. It's not Halo CE. This is why MS is making a big distinction with the MC Collection that it includes MP in its real form, as it was years ago. Again, something you cannot put a set value on.

On the other hand, we can add a set value on the Halo series. It will be $15 standalone. I think that ups us to $152. And betas typically are free, eventually. Who knows with this one. I highly doubt they are going to include beta access in the collection only to have people playing the same thing at the same time for free.

So thanks to you and Sony we can now nail down this comparison at $32 worth of content in LoU plus the upcharge for a total of $50.
In the MC Collection we have $152 worth of content and upcharges, not counting Halo 2 and its upcharge, for $60.

I think we can close this case. Or you can continue, I just wanted to show how dumb these value comparisons are.

Not exactly on topic topic but still...

So people applauding a product are considered fans. Doesn't the writer suppose that at e3 a lot of the same people are applauding different products?
Completely fucked up assumption. Makes the piece trash.

He is responding to people that are taking it for granted that MCC is of significantly more value than TLOU.

Considering this, you really have no reason to school him on the reasoning for his post.

On N4G, you can "bubble up" or "bubble down" users. The amount of comments a user has is the amount of times they are allowed to make a comment per topic. True_Fan on N4G is considered one of the biggest anti-Sony trolls - consequently he is only allowed a single post per topic (which is the minimum).

If it is him then we are in for a lot of frustration (and I do think it is him).

#1 Google "The Last of Us DLC" and you see "Left Behind" "Grounded" "New Maps". Google "Halo 4 DLC" and the Halo Wiki comes up with details on each DLC and when you get to Halo 4, they all say "Free with War Games Pass"

#2 I used an auction that still had time on it, actually (I just sorted by "Ending Soonest"). Not that you were obligated to respond sooner but the auction was a 3 day one, and it sold for $6 by the time you looked at it. But for some reason you ignored a store price I showed you (the Texas game store)? Or say that I use TLOU retail price? No, it still goes for $30+ on ebay. The only one I see, right now, anywhere near as cheap as $12 are disc only auctions. If you want to go that route, that significantly reduces the prices for the Halo games. Halo 3 + ODST would be like $7 total combined, and since ODST has all the maps, that would negate any need to download them. Then Halo 4 is around the same price + $25 war games pass + $10 Champions bundle. You somehow get $104.50 out of that?! Halo Anniversary would, then, be $8. I don't know why you have a "1080p60 $18 upcharge", because it doesn't exist. It baffles me that you're calling an effectively GOTY edition an "upcharge". Find me one GOTY that hasn't launched at full price, and then maybe I'll consider what you're saying.

Anyway, the 3 Halos I've talked about in this discussion are sitting smooth at $57. Again, leaving Halo 2, Halo Series, and a beta as the only "new" things. I've already said I won't try to ascertain the value of Halo 2 but a TV show and a free beta? You can have that. That ain't even what I'm mad at.

And it's not dumb to make value comparisons when you're talking about something trying to sell a system (and then you guys bringing up the argument of how it's so much better than a Sony game). If I could get 3/4 of a collection at this very moment on a 360, I'm not hyping up and waiting for it for 5 months and I'm definitely not dropping $460 just to get 1 extra game. I won't count myself since I already have a PS4, but imagine how you'd think if people said they were getting a PS4 because of a Ratchet and Clank collection or something? You'd probably say the same thing I am: "that you can get those games at this very moment. If you're hyped for mere remakes (instead of new games), then you must not have anything else to play"

The PS3 was too expensive when it came out and it still sold more it's first year than the 360, sold more total and had better exclusives.How were they arrogant again? I'm sick of people keep bringing up the launch when the PS3 sold out immediately and waa in higher demand than the 360.The truth is, this is propaganda pushed by the media because Sony had a bad 2006 E3.The PS3 had a good line up it's first year.Also I will never buy a WiiU and it is in it's second year with nothing that's appealing.

I doubt Sony will become arrogant, at least not this generation. The difference is that on ps3, Sony came to the generation after 2 years of domination thinking there weren't any competition, while with ps4, Sony is coming after taking huge losses from ps3. Sony realize this time around that NA is a sensible market and won't hesitate changing sides if they need to.

I'm quite in doubt what will be the engine for the games on the collection... will they use the same engine, mechanics and physics of the original or the proto-engine of Halo5 or Reach engine? What about the MP what will be the gameplay? Because all I hear is that for MP all you will have is maps for the 4 games so you won't have Halo CE, 2, 3 and 4 MP, will just have their maps and one engine they choose to use. So can we stop with the bash of TLOU as low value and Halo as being the godsend and just accept that both games will attract their fanbase and they will find value on the game they buy.