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My thoughts

The U won't sell well. 45 33.09%
 
NSMBU wasn't a good system seller. 89 65.44%
 
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Nintentacle on 20 June 2014
kopstudent89 said:
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
NSMB is the type of game that rode the wave of success on the Wii. It also had the first-2D-Mario-Game-On-A-Console-in-18- years factor. NSMB U came at a time when the Wii U wasn't hyped at all and just after 2 Mario games got released on the 3DS in the last year (4 in the last 3 years including the Wii). Nintendo's decision was horrible imo.

Well, it did get 4 million sold...


With bundles

Still turned a profit without it.

Still a failure from a franchise that sold almost 30m on the Wii no? You can't be happy with that

That's like saying NES was a failure because PS2 sold more.



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Nintentacle on 20 June 2014
DM235 said:
padib said:
DM235 said:

The Wii U is trash...

I got one for a ridiculous price and I am still disappointed.

Ok, maybe trash is too strong a word, but it is not great.

The hardware has many shortcomings.  Not only is the CPU/GPU weak, I found the following deficiencies:

-there is no onboard LAN port
who cares

 -it does not support HDMI-CEC (and therefore my sound system)
who cares
-there is very little onboard storage, so forget going digital
No, get a 32gb usb drive they are 8$.

-the OS is horribly slow
Ok, you get 1 point
-the online store prices are ridiculous
Yes, you're not obliged to buy them.
-there is no shared wallet system between the 3DS
Fair but not a show-stopper
-you cannot charge your controllers through the built-in USB ports while the consoel is in standby
who cares
-when doing system updates you get no progress updates so you think your system has frozen
not really
-the drive keeps giving me random disc-read errors
not me
-the fan is loud (maybe my console is a dud, who knows)
probably
That is what annoyed me in the first week of ownership.
Sounds like you care about useless things



 

I can also add that the gamepad also has a horrible battery life.

Yes

Video games are useless things, so yes I do care about useless things.

I don't get this. You don't care about it, yet you're talking about it right now.

And, there is a shared wallet system between Wii U and 3DS.





homer on 21 June 2014
Ucell said:
homer said:
Ucell said:
padib said:
Ucell said:
Mario Kart 8 hasn't changed the Wii U's fortunes. Its the U's biggest release and still the console has already dropped below 100k sales.

Wii U is a niche console like the Vita is a niche handheld.

The U and the Vita have little in common. One is supported by its maker, the other is not.

The latest weeklies show the Vita at 27k while the U at 84k.

That's after the Wii U got the biggest excusive game it will ever get. That makes it all the more disappointing as the Vita hasn't got any of Sony's major IP's other than Uncharted which wasn't as well-recieved as the console games.

Meanwhile the Wii U has already got many of Nintendo's biggest IP's and its biggest one just recently and still has dropped below 100k.

Of course not to mention the home console market is a lot more mainstream than handheld market.


Has it though? Mariokart and NSMB I suppose but where is smash, Zelda, Paper Mario, Metroid, and a real 3d mario? The wii had all of these by this point minus NSMB. Sure, a healthy part of the wii's success can explained by the hype people had for motion controls (a hype not held for the new controller) but it would be a mistake to forget that the early wii library absolutely trounces the wiiu's.

It has 3D Mario, Pikmin, DKC and even a Zelda HD remake. They are more mainstream than Paper Mario and Metroid.

I don't believe Super Mario 3d World is comparable to Mario Galaxy and neither is a zelda remake to a new zelda, even if it was crossgen. Pikmin isn't as mainstream as Paper Mario and probably not as mainstream as metroid seeing as it took a gen off.(unless you consider new play control). Wii had an excellent array of titles at launch and shortly following it. Wiiu is getting good games, but the wii got these games earlier in the gen cycle, which is better for nintendo games because they sell throughout the entirety of the generation sometimes with no sequels.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius

Scisca on 21 June 2014

Wii U is too expensive for what it's worth. That's all. It needs a steady flow of AAA games and a $70 price cut. Only then will it have any chance of taking off. A Nintendo console can't cost more than $250 (with $200 being the perfect option), if it is to be so much inferior in comparison to the competition. There is no way in hell I'm paying $300 for Wii U, when I can get a PS4 for $400. Ninty has to fix that.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

oniyide on 21 June 2014
padib said:
RolStoppable said:
padib said:
RolStoppable said:

By the way, I've said that the Wii U is not good enough since E3 2011.

Sure. And you still have no solid basis for that claim.

Except the fact that every game that has been released for the Wii U didn't rocket the console out of its hole. I mean, you have to be in serious denial to not see this. You are presented with two choices:

1) The Wii U is a piece of trash.
2) All Wii U games so far have been of abysmal quality and that's why nobody wants to buy the console.

You can't pick "Mario Kart 8 is a fantastic game that proved Rol wrong" when the Wii U was boosted to 20k and 35k units in the week of its release in Japan and the USA, respectively.

They are not of abysmal quality. They simply were not enough to rocket the console out of its hole. MK8 is. To boost the console of that many units after 2 years on the market is huge, much greater than what WD did for the PS4.

The U jumped 345% the week MK8 launched, for an absolute jump of 100k. Watch Dogs caused a global jump of 61% for a total of 68k absolute jump.

The U is not a piece of trash, and still you have no explanation to your arguments that it is offering the same games as Sony and MS. The controller? I hope that's not your argument.

All WiiU games have struggled so far to sell the U, ALL Wii U games. Including all the low-value Wii-type games you so love. Art Academy, Wii Sports, Nintendo Land, Wii Play U, etc etc. All have struggled to sell, the only difference is that these I just mentioned plumetted, while the original games that are high quality have not plumetted. MK8 is on to sell very well if this trend is any indicator.


@ bolded, but that makes little sense. The fact that it was on the market THAT long and was in the hole for that long shows just how poorly received the system has been. And please dont use PS4 as a comparison, becasue no matter how you spin it, having the PS4 makes the Wii U look worst much worse. Last i checked WD still did better and the system itself still did better than Wii U. So im not sure why bring that up. And the PS4 was never in a hole so it doesnt need any game to save it.



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CarcharodonKraz on 21 June 2014

I think your initial argument is a bit flawed. No 2d side-scroller can compete with mariokart. It's not nsmbu being a bad game as much as it is being a game with a 30 year old formula. Mario kart 8 is different from the others, but it's probably not as much of a standout in terms of gameplay as say double-dash. Also, I think your missing the fact that the Mario kart bundle is the system bundled with a NEW GAME



CarcharodonKraz on 21 June 2014

(sorry, accidentally hit post, and I can't quote or edit comments on vgchartz for whatever weird reason). Anyway, .... a NEW GAME, as opposed to a game that had been out for a year prior to it's bundle. If Mario was bundled with the wii-u to begin with, the wii-u probably would've sold ALOT more. Then, when there were no games everyone would have sold/traded it in until now considering the lack of games :}