By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - NSMBU and MK8, a lesson for Nintendo

 

My thoughts

The U won't sell well. 45 33.09%
 
NSMBU wasn't a good system seller. 89 65.44%
 
Total:134
Smear-Gel on 19 June 2014
padib said:

if you make lame games no matter how good the gameplay


What?



Around the Network
Smear-Gel on 19 June 2014
RolStoppable said:
padib said:
RolStoppable said:

By the way, I've said that the Wii U is not good enough since E3 2011.

Sure. And you still have no solid basis for that claim.

Except the fact that every game that has been released for the Wii U didn't rocket the console out of its hole. I mean, you have to be in serious denial to not see this. You are presented with two choices:

1) The Wii U is a piece of trash.
2) All Wii U games so far have been of abysmal quality and that's why nobody wants to buy the console.

You can't pick "Mario Kart 8 is a fantastic game that proved Rol wrong" when the Wii U was boosted to 20k and 35k units in the week of its release in Japan and the USA, respectively.


I'm not taking sides, because this thread is more dumb than it is not dumb, but that's an oversimplification if I've ever seen one. It's so oversimplified it's almost annoying.



Smear-Gel on 19 June 2014
padib said:
Smear-Gel said:
padib said:

if you make lame games no matter how good the gameplay


What?

There is more than one aspect to a game. Gameplay is one.

If the rest is lame, the art is lame and cheesy and just bad, and the music sucks, it will affect the overall appeal of the game.

 

Eh, the entire post seems to just be you not liking NSMB imo.



kopstudent89 on 20 June 2014
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
NSMB is the type of game that rode the wave of success on the Wii. It also had the first-2D-Mario-Game-On-A-Console-in-18- years factor. NSMB U came at a time when the Wii U wasn't hyped at all and just after 2 Mario games got released on the 3DS in the last year (4 in the last 3 years including the Wii). Nintendo's decision was horrible imo.

Well, it did get 4 million sold...


With bundles



Devil_Survivor on 20 June 2014
DerNebel said:
So, um did I miss something here or is this thread about overreacting to MK8s effect on Wii U sales after we got 2 weeks of data once again?


People really love to jump the gun on judging sales on this website don't they :S.



 

Around the Network
Nintentacle on 20 June 2014
kopstudent89 said:
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
NSMB is the type of game that rode the wave of success on the Wii. It also had the first-2D-Mario-Game-On-A-Console-in-18- years factor. NSMB U came at a time when the Wii U wasn't hyped at all and just after 2 Mario games got released on the 3DS in the last year (4 in the last 3 years including the Wii). Nintendo's decision was horrible imo.

Well, it did get 4 million sold...


With bundles

Still turned a profit without it.



Skidonti on 20 June 2014

I've got some advice for Nintendo: release some mass market appeal games (or games at all more frequently than one every 3 months) in the first 18 months of your console's life, dumb butts.

NSMB is tired, people love it, but they all look like the same game. I don't know about many others, but seeing NSMBU for the first time I thought "I have this game on Wii and DS". At least MK8 looks like more of an improvement/change.

2D platformers, WarioWare, and Pikmin ain't gonna sell $300+ systems when they don't even use the expensive controller you're trying to sell. The first potential system pusher WiiU got was 3D World a full year after release (still not using the controller). And it's a shame it hasn't been pushing more consoles than it has because that game is a lot of fun and (because I didn't play 3D Land) actually kind of a unique feeling for Mario.

Now over the next month or two we'll see how the next potential pusher, MK8, holds up. I'm starting to feel VGC new weekly data is worth squat beyond general trends; I'll just be looking for Japan numbers and NPD, or any official statements.

Okay, now I got all that complaining out of my system.



DM235 on 20 June 2014
padib said:
DM235 said:

The Wii U is trash...

I got one for a ridiculous price and I am still disappointed.

Ok, maybe trash is too strong a word, but it is not great.

The hardware has many shortcomings.  Not only is the CPU/GPU weak, I found the following deficiencies:

-there is no onboard LAN port
who cares

 -it does not support HDMI-CEC (and therefore my sound system)
who cares
-there is very little onboard storage, so forget going digital
No, get a 32gb usb drive they are 8$.

-the OS is horribly slow
Ok, you get 1 point
-the online store prices are ridiculous
Yes, you're not obliged to buy them.
-there is no shared wallet system between the 3DS
Fair but not a show-stopper
-you cannot charge your controllers through the built-in USB ports while the consoel is in standby
who cares
-when doing system updates you get no progress updates so you think your system has frozen
not really
-the drive keeps giving me random disc-read errors
not me
-the fan is loud (maybe my console is a dud, who knows)
probably
That is what annoyed me in the first week of ownership.
Sounds like you care about useless things



 

I can also add that the gamepad also has a horrible battery life.

Video games are useless things, so yes I do care about useless things.

I don't think I am alone in my opinions either.  The hardware just feels like a console from 2006, and it is not priced low enough to be someone's second console (or to forgive its shortcomings).  The hardware annoyances also push me to get any multiplatform games on other consoles.



Ucell on 20 June 2014
homer said:
Ucell said:
padib said:
Ucell said:
Mario Kart 8 hasn't changed the Wii U's fortunes. Its the U's biggest release and still the console has already dropped below 100k sales.

Wii U is a niche console like the Vita is a niche handheld.

The U and the Vita have little in common. One is supported by its maker, the other is not.

The latest weeklies show the Vita at 27k while the U at 84k.

That's after the Wii U got the biggest excusive game it will ever get. That makes it all the more disappointing as the Vita hasn't got any of Sony's major IP's other than Uncharted which wasn't as well-recieved as the console games.

Meanwhile the Wii U has already got many of Nintendo's biggest IP's and its biggest one just recently and still has dropped below 100k.

Of course not to mention the home console market is a lot more mainstream than handheld market.


Has it though? Mariokart and NSMB I suppose but where is smash, Zelda, Paper Mario, Metroid, and a real 3d mario? The wii had all of these by this point minus NSMB. Sure, a healthy part of the wii's success can explained by the hype people had for motion controls (a hype not held for the new controller) but it would be a mistake to forget that the early wii library absolutely trounces the wiiu's.

It has 3D Mario, Pikmin, DKC and even a Zelda HD remake. They are more mainstream than Paper Mario and Metroid.



kopstudent89 on 20 June 2014
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
Nintentacle said:
kopstudent89 said:
NSMB is the type of game that rode the wave of success on the Wii. It also had the first-2D-Mario-Game-On-A-Console-in-18- years factor. NSMB U came at a time when the Wii U wasn't hyped at all and just after 2 Mario games got released on the 3DS in the last year (4 in the last 3 years including the Wii). Nintendo's decision was horrible imo.

Well, it did get 4 million sold...


With bundles

Still turned a profit without it.

Still a failure from a franchise that sold almost 30m on the Wii no? You can't be happy with that