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vivster said:
bananaking21 said:
i guess he managed to forget that Games arent playable on Youtube. you can watch a game all you want but you cant play it unless you buy it, and thats kind of the point of games. even if he does have a point, he is simply being greedy, this is basically free marketing and this is the best form of "word of mouth" there is.

It's when he realized that you will get the most out of his games by just watching.


i wouldnt even bother, it would be an epic waste of time. 



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Blob said:
How is he wrong? If you're making money off of someone elses product they have every right to claim a portion.


should news channels start paying money to whoever they are reporting the news about? 

if ESPN reported statistics about chicago bulls before a match, should they pay the chicago bulls? 



bananaking21 said:
DamnTastic said:

He has a point tho.
Games like league of legends, dota, counter strike, CoD and so on all gain popularity and publicity with twitch and youtube.
But games like Beyond: two souls, The last of us, The walking dead: telltale and so on all lose revenue because of these walkthroughs.

just because a game has a strong story does not mean watching it is enough to experience the game. TLoU is a very, very weak example too, it has a deap, intense and fluid gameplay. might as well saying watching mario is just as the same as playing it.

as for Beyond and Walking dead. dont you make your own choices in those games? then watching them takes away A LOT of the experience. 

I know a lot of people who just watch playthroughs of these games so they don't have to buy them.

TWD and TloU are 1 of the best examples imo. 

Look at the playthrough of pewdiepie of tlou. 1st vid has 10million views, and all the vids an average between 4 and 5million. And that's just 1 channel.

Like I said, only story driven games suffer from this. A story can be oh so good, but why do it all over again when you know how it's going to end? Some people don't care or just don't find the motivation to buy and play through a whole game when they've already seen someone elses entire run.



bananaking21 said:
Blob said:
How is he wrong? If you're making money off of someone elses product they have every right to claim a portion.


should news channels start paying money to whoever they are reporting the news about? 

if ESPN reported statistics about chicago bulls before a match, should they pay the chicago bulls? 


Pretty sure if a News program showed an entire movie the owning company would hit them hard. You're confusing the reporting of news with the airing of an entire product owned by somebody. Same goes for the statistics which can be compiled in house if need be. Also ESPN would pay the NBA for the rights to air games so they do pay the Chicago Bulls in some manner.

Whether or not you like the fact that companies are making claims like this for money, you can't forget that it is well within their legal rights to do so.



This guy did say something stupid before didnt he I just cant remember what..



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I completely agree with him dude..



Blob said:
bananaking21 said:
Blob said:
How is he wrong? If you're making money off of someone elses product they have every right to claim a portion.


should news channels start paying money to whoever they are reporting the news about?

if ESPN reported statistics about chicago bulls before a match, should they pay the chicago bulls?


Pretty sure if a News program showed an entire movie the owning company would hit them hard. You're confusing the reporting of news with the airing of an entire product owned by somebody. Same goes for the statistics which can be compiled in house if need be. Also ESPN would pay the NBA for the rights to air games so they do pay the Chicago Bulls in some manner.

Whether or not you like the fact that companies are making claims like this for money, you can't forget that it is well within their legal rights to do so.

Youtube has complete games? I don't remember I need a controller to play the video of a game in Youtube.



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DamnTastic said:

I know a lot of people who just watch playthroughs of these games so they don't have to buy them.

TWD and TloU are 1 of the best examples imo. 

Look at the playthrough of pewdiepie of tlou. 1st vid has 10million views, and all the vids an average between 4 and 5million. And that's just 1 channel.

Like I said, only story driven games suffer from this. A story can be oh so good, but why do it all over again when you know how it's going to end? Some people don't care or just don't find the motivation to buy and play through a whole game when they've already seen someone elses entire run.

They won't buy the game anyway. Most of those people who watch LoU don't even have PS3.



DamnTastic said:

I know a lot of people who just watch playthroughs of these games so they don't have to buy them.

TWD and TloU are 1 of the best examples imo. 

Look at the playthrough of pewdiepie of tlou. 1st vid has 10million views, and all the vids an average between 4 and 5million. And that's just 1 channel.

Like I said, only story driven games suffer from this. A story can be oh so good, but why do it all over again when you know how it's going to end? Some people don't care or just don't find the motivation to buy and play through a whole game when they've already seen someone elses entire run.

the only people who actually bother to watch a 15 hour video game are ones who werent going to buy it anyways. 



He is right. All those "Let's Play" accounts are pirating the games content to make money. That is theft.



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