Cross posting from the Corporate Spin thread that linked to this one, since it's more relevant here anyways....

Who actually bases hope of a generational victory on Killzone 2? I haven't seen anything remotely like that actually said by anyone. Sure, lots of people expect it to be great and some of the fanboys expect it to be better than Halo or Gears (or Resistance or Uncharted, for that matter)... but that's just fanboys for you.

Everything I've seen on gameplay mechanics, art, implementation, everything... has made Killzone 2 look like a quality title. True, the original was kinda shite (a combination of hardware limitations and Guerilla getting their feet wet), but Guerilla proved that they know how to make a quality game with Killzone Liberation on the PSP and everyone who's seen it in motion and had a gameplay demonstration has come away drooling over it.

I don't think silence on the title means anything negative at all. I think it means that Guerilla has taken all the time they care to at this point to show off the title and are busy finishing it. We'll likely see the hype train start rolling when new previews come out and a release date is nailed down.

Seriously, a better comparison would be Lair and Too Human. Thats another bomb in the making if the initial reactions are to be believed.

Though it's kind of a lame thread i'll bite to simply say no one will ever know how a game will turn out. All you can do is guess so maybe it'll flop maybe it'll go gold or hit 1mil or maybe blow every one away and hit 2 or 3M. Basing kz2's success on anything that happened with lair just sound ridiculous to me.

Guerilla could be slowing down release till enough PS3 are out so they can make thier money back remember the Japanese market probably wont buy this game!  its a 25 million dollar investment it better be good!

 Latest estimates have Killzone 2 costing $60 million.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/02/hands-on-too-hu.html

Please don't deliberately deceive people.

Killzone 2 started out with the BEST reactions that are now followed by relative silence and rumours of mediocrity.

Too human started out as vaporware that was then panned when shown and has since progressively received better and better reactions to the point it is now highly anticipated. 

killone2 1st party
lair 3rd party

killzone 2,.,, at least average to most
Lair,... at least sucked to most...

Exactly, they're only rumors. Everything that has actually been seen and played by journalists has been received quite favorably.

Also, read my earlier post. There is a reason GG is staying relatively silent.

I've never understood this line of reasoning. Consoles don't sell without games. If every developer delayed their games while waiting for the install base to get bigger, it would never grow, because there would be no games. Even worse, the developers would be losing money by sitting on a relatively finished product.

People had been using this same line of reasoning for why MGS4 was delayed at the end of last year, that the install base was too small, but it made no sense, and Konami's president Fumiaki Tanaka recently came out with his own estimates for MGS4, that are precisely in line with my views on the matter. The userbase will rise when the games come, and not before.

 I'm still hoping that Too Human will be good.