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Forums - Sony Discussion - Lair vs Killzone 2

A few days ago I posted a thread that contained links to Killzone 2 screenshots that I believed were new.  I was quickly shot down by a number of people that said the shots had been seen many months ago.  However upon discovering this I realised something, I haven't heard Sony talk about Killzone 2 in quite a while.  

Now many of you may say 'so what?'  And so I answer you with another question.  What was the last game that was exclusive to the PS3 that Sony hyped beyond belief, claiming it was going to show off the PS3's power and revolutionise gaming and then suddenly STOPPED talking about?  The answer, Lair...

I fully anticipated hearing a lot about Killzone 2 from Sony at GDC.  Many rightly point out that whilst many announcments are made at GDC's (GeoW2), they are primarily developer-based technical showcases.  However given Killzone 2's position as a graphical standard bearer for the PS3, I expected a strong showing from Sony this year.

To see if there was anything to collaborate the 'Lair-like' elusiveness of Killzone 2, I thought back through recent gaming news and went searching.  What I found were Surfer Girl rumours of Killzone 2's gameplay mediocrity, news of budget blowouts, rumours of complaints from Insomniac over Guerilla Games inefficiency and other industry websites claiming they are hearing that Killzone 2's gameplay doesn't set it apart from the genre's Turok's and Blacksite's and other mid-range to mediocre shooters.

I present none of this with the pretence that it is fact, I recognise that this is almost entirely speculation and adding together little bits of information that may not fit together in the end.  But I note that whilst Surfer Girl may be the first to make most of these claims, noone in the know has come out to correct her.  As the blogger in one of the links below points out, the first Killzone was missing something and if the parallels with Lair are a reality, Killzone 2 is as well......

 

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/2503.html

http://www.gameguru.in/features/2008/02/gears-of-war-2-rumor-update/

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;410140369;fp;2;fpid;2

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2-should-meet-target-movie--a0002579-p0.php

http://www.lazygamer.co.za/ps3/killzone-2-barely-mediocre/

http://www.ps3forums.com/blog.php?b=130



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Lair was a failure. Kill Zone 2 is uncertain. Hold your breath.



Just because it was not shown at GDC does not mean that there is something wrong. the only new PS3 info that we have got this year is some home stuff and R2 announcement, but basically nothing besides that. We will hear something at Gamers Day



Im sure we will hear SOMETHING at gamers day. But will it be something big like the Gears of War 2 press conference? Or will it be more like the 'also-ran' mention that Lair got at last year's E3 just before we found out how horrible it is.



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I assume it will be delayed and it is only 50% complete. So will appear late this year or early next year.
PS3 = Promises you the world. So many delays. 3 years time I will buy one for $149 US with 500 games to chose from.



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starcraft said:
Im sure we will hear SOMETHING at gamers day. But will it be something big like the Gears of War 2 press conference? Or will it be more like the 'also-ran' mention that Lair got at last year's E3 just before we found out how horrible it is.

 They will give another play through, announce muti player stuff and the beta, with a september release, before R2's November release (Insomniac always release in November)



Lair was a lot less hyped than KZ2
Lair was described as a possible "average games with limited control" since the first preview. It is just PS3 fan where hoping it will be ameliorate before the final release.

At the opposite, KZ2 was praised by the media when they played the demo some months ago.

From what we know :

Tech
Lair : frame rate problem
KZ2 : no technical problem
control
Lair : sixaxis problem
KZ2 : no problem

Overall :
KZ2 > Lair pretty easly since Lair is so low

The BIG question :

Does KZ2 deserve his hype ?

E3 will be big this year
I expect Sony keynote with R2/KZ2/FFXIII in game video/demo



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Thats my point though libellule. We didn't KNOW any of that about Lair until suddenly Sony stopped talking about it. Shortly after that, websites started getting their hands on builds of the game in an unsupervised setting and the truth came out.

Don't tell me Lair wasn't hyped. If the shit had hit the fan just one week later I would have owned a PS3 to play that game. Man would I have regretted that. Right now, Sony are treating Killzone 2 the same way they treated Lair at the end, and amid the same climate of rumours and speculation.



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sincerely, KZ2 was ALREADY played by some people and, despite laking of originality, it was far from being bad.

Lair is really a bad comparaison, maybe u should keep it for other games ...



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Umm... you do know that GDC is a game developers confrence, not entirely about video games?