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Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:

The person is Link, and male, confirmed!

Sig priveleges for me :D


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First I would like you to read this as carefully as possible. I do not want you to jump to any conclusions or have any misunderstandings so please carefully read this until the very end. It does not matter that it was confirmed as link. That was not our bet. You bet that there is no way that link in the video was female. I bet that link in the video would be either male or female, meaning it was up to the player to decide. As seen here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6402716

 

Note that you quoted that later so no text was altered. As it turns out Eiji Aonuma  confirms here and numerous other outlets http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/ That it is completely up to the player to descide what gender Link is. He says " don't want to look too closely at, or give too much information about, who the player character is, because it's supposed to represent the player--him or herself."

 

"The character's a hero, and represents the player in the game, so I leave that to the player to decide what the characteristics are of the player character, because it's supposed to represent him or herself. If that makes sense!"

 

Which again is what my bet was. I said "I am perfectly confident it could be either so sure" which was just confirmed. Not male, not female but both and completely up to the player to decide. Then there is the fact that the game isn't even out yet. So anything can still happen. Much like when Ocarina of time was released there was lots of speculation on who sheik was. The original players manual called sheik a male and was treated as a separate character. Then you actually play the game and find out that sheik is really a female and is actually zelda. Look it up, a lot of speculation at the time about it. Now years later Sheik is widely known as female. So this discussion shouldn't even be happening until the game is released.

 

So I want you to understand you did not win the bet for two important reasons. 1. The bet isn't actually over until the game is released. So far you have seriously jumped the gun, confused what the bet was actually about, and ignored what Eiji Aonuma said. 2. When you  bet you said "Alright, if that's a female, you can have sig privileges for my account for an entire month." According to Eiji Aonuma it is a female if the player so chooses. My bet was that it could be either. Which was confirmed. So again I don't owe you a thing.

 

Now that is made crystal clear you need to know I don't care. I just got off a ban for expressing an honest and fair opinion of an over zealous dedicated Xbox fan. Tho I was too crass, offensive, and way off topic so it came off as a flame. I am honestly trying to work on that because I go off on diluted dedicated fans too easily. Even if they deserve it, it is not how things work here and I am trying to adhere to that. So I need to make a penance. So I am going to give you the month. Even tho you do not deserve it for the reasons I stated above. So you name it and I'll change it with the stipulations previously agreed to.   Which means if it breaks any rules or if I find it offensive its a no go. I'm feeling charitable so What is it?

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Well, if you feel so strongly about it, keep your sig.



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VanceIX said:

Quoted from your wall:

Well, if you feel so strongly about it, keep your sig.


This is why I asked you to read it all the way to the end. So you wouldn't jump to this kind of conclusion. As I said I don't care. I do not feel strongly about it. I am just presenting you the facts. The facts say I won the bet, Eiji Aonuma said it himself numerous times that they made Link ambiguous enough that it could be male or female and that it was entirely up to the player to decide. Which is what I bet.  Now even tho I am entitled to your sig for a month, because again I won the bet. I won't even tho at this point I am having second thoughts. i am trying to be charitable and make an amends which you are not making easy. My charity has it limits, I already asked you once, I'm not going to ask again. All you had to do was accept ya lost, which again ya did Eiji Aonuma said if a female player chooses to see Link as a female then she is just as right as a male gamer that sees Link as male, and tell me what you wanted. If you can't do that then walk away and it will be entirely on you. So don't try to put it on me and say I feel strongly about it. I've made it perfectly clear I do not care and if I did feel strongly about it I would be be demanding your sig which I am entitled to. 



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Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:

Quoted from your wall:

Well, if you feel so strongly about it, keep your sig.


This is why I asked you to read it all the way to the end. So you wouldn't jump to this kind of conclusion. As I said I don't care. I do not feel strongly about it. I am just presenting you the facts. The facts say I won the bet, Eiji Aonuma said it himself numerous times that they made Link ambiguous enough that it could be male or female and that it was entirely up to the player to decide. Which is what I bet.  Now even tho I am entitled to your sig for a month, because again I won the bet. I won't even tho at this point I am having second thoughts. i am trying to be charitable and make an amends which you are not making easy. My charity has it limits, I already asked you once, I'm not going to ask again. All you had to do was accept ya lost, which again ya did Eiji Aonuma said if a female player chooses to see Link as a female then she is just as right as a male gamer that sees Link as male, and tell me what you wanted. If you can't do that then walk away and it will be entirely on you. So don't try to put it on me and say I feel strongly about it. I've made it perfectly clear I do not care and if I did feel strongly about it I would be be demanding your sig which I am entitled to. 


“I don’t want people to get hung up on the way Link looks because ultimately Link represents the player in the game. I don’t want to define him so much that it becomes limiting to the players. I want players to focus on other parts of the trailer and not specifically on the character because the character Link represents, again, the player.”

Notice how he said "him"? Straight from Aonuma's mouth.



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VanceIX said:
Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:

Quoted from your wall:

Well, if you feel so strongly about it, keep your sig.


This is why I asked you to read it all the way to the end. So you wouldn't jump to this kind of conclusion. As I said I don't care. I do not feel strongly about it. I am just presenting you the facts. The facts say I won the bet, Eiji Aonuma said it himself numerous times that they made Link ambiguous enough that it could be male or female and that it was entirely up to the player to decide. Which is what I bet.  Now even tho I am entitled to your sig for a month, because again I won the bet. I won't even tho at this point I am having second thoughts. i am trying to be charitable and make an amends which you are not making easy. My charity has it limits, I already asked you once, I'm not going to ask again. All you had to do was accept ya lost, which again ya did Eiji Aonuma said if a female player chooses to see Link as a female then she is just as right as a male gamer that sees Link as male, and tell me what you wanted. If you can't do that then walk away and it will be entirely on you. So don't try to put it on me and say I feel strongly about it. I've made it perfectly clear I do not care and if I did feel strongly about it I would be be demanding your sig which I am entitled to. 


“I don’t want people to get hung up on the way Link looks because ultimately Link represents the player in the game. I don’t want to define him so much that it becomes limiting to the players. I want players to focus on other parts of the trailer and not specifically on the character because the character Link represents, again, the player.”

Notice how he said "him"? Straight from Aonuma's mouth.

No that was straight from the translators mouth. Read the rest of the story he clearly gives the same statement as other sources who asked him the same exact questions. Check this link which had a proper translator. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/ Notice how he says "And I don't want to look too closely at, or give too much information about, who the player character is, because it's supposed to represent the player--him or herself."

"The character's a hero, and represents the player in the game, so I leave that to the player to decide what the characteristics are of the player character, because it's supposed to represent him or herself. If that makes sense!"

It does not matter if the translator says "him" on one website when in the same story he gives pretty much the same statement he gave other outlets. Which is again in his own words that it is up to the player to decide. You can't pick and choose minor things and ignore the bulk of the context of what was said. He said it was entirely up to the player to decide.



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Well I believe it's Link



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Zadainie said:
Well I believe it's Link


It is Link and was confirmed as Link. The debate so far has been whether or not Link was strictly male, or female, or was meant to be perceived as either. Eiji Aonuma has said time and time again that links gender is entirely up to the player to decide. It represents the player so if the player is female and chooses to see Link as female she is right. If a male plays the game and chooses to see Link as male then he is right. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/



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Nicklesbe said:
Zadainie said:
Well I believe it's Link


It is Link and was confirmed as Link. The debate so far has been whether or not Link was strictly male, or female, or was meant to be perceived as either. Eiji Aonuma has said time and time again that links gender is entirely up to the player to decide. It represents the player so if the player is female and chooses to see Link as female she is right. If a male plays the game and chooses to see Link as male then he is right. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/

i guess he is just being polite after that whole fuss about "can't have gay relationships" in tomodachi life.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Nicklesbe said:
Zadainie said:
Well I believe it's Link


It is Link and was confirmed as Link. The debate so far has been whether or not Link was strictly male, or female, or was meant to be perceived as either. Eiji Aonuma has said time and time again that links gender is entirely up to the player to decide. It represents the player so if the player is female and chooses to see Link as female she is right. If a male plays the game and chooses to see Link as male then he is right. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/

i guess he is just being polite after that whole fuss about "can't have gay relationships" in tomodachi life.

Polite or not the character is clearly ambiguous. Hence all the debate that's been going on. If it was strictly a female he would have come out and said it is strictly a female. If it was strictly a male he would have come out and strictly said it was a male. He would not have said it was up to the player to decide and the character design would be clear as it has been in past games and not cause any confusion.



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Nicklesbe said:


It is Link and was confirmed as Link. The debate so far has been whether or not Link was strictly male, or female, or was meant to be perceived as either. Eiji Aonuma has said time and time again that links gender is entirely up to the player to decide. It represents the player so if the player is female and chooses to see Link as female she is right. If a male plays the game and chooses to see Link as male then he is right. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/


That's a bold face lie. He never said that. Link is a male. Aunuma confirmed that. That is not up to the player. It's up to Link's penis.



spemanig said:
Nicklesbe said:
Zadainie said:
Well I believe it's Link


It is Link and was confirmed as Link. The debate so far has been whether or not Link was strictly male, or female, or was meant to be perceived as either. Eiji Aonuma has said time and time again that links gender is entirely up to the player to decide. It represents the player so if the player is female and chooses to see Link as female she is right. If a male plays the game and chooses to see Link as male then he is right. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/


That's a bold face lie. Link is a male. Aunuma confirmed that. That is not up to the player. It's up to Link's penis.

I guess you can't read then? "And I don't want to look too closely at, or give too much information about, who the player character is, because it's supposed to represent the player--him or herself."

"The character's a hero, and represents the player in the game, so I leave that to the player to decide what the characteristics are of the player character, because it's supposed to represent him or herself. If that makes sense!" That is not a lie those are his words. read them again. Where in that quotes does he say it is strictly a male? He doesn't he says it is strictly up to the player to decide. He's told that exact thing to every outlet that has asked him. Learn to read, it's not a lie.



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