dane007 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Dane! Dane! Dane! I've been following your comments and with each comment I think "WTF are you talking about".
OK we get it, you love your X1. But come on man. You try to list exclusive games as fact but when somebody challenges you, you revert back to opinion by saying things like "But I don't like KZ as much as TF", "But I don't like Indies".
What is it to be? Are you going to state opinions or facts? Stop stating you like every game released on X1 but don't want to recognise PS4 games because "you don't like them"
Talking about facts, Dead Rising 3 isn't a 1st party exclusive, Titanfall isn't a 1st party exclusive, Ryse isn't a 1st party exclusive. They are all made by 3rd party developers. And out of all those MS only own the Ryse IP which btw isn't a AAA game. Maybe a AAA budget but not a AAA game, Metacritic proves that.
Then you go on about E3, like MS is going to have the Mega Awesome E3 and Sony is just going to stand there and do nothing with their chins hitting the floor in awe of MS. Their Not!
And what is it about Indies you do not like? Some of the best games are Indie. Why should you not include all the indies coming to the PS4 just because you don't like them???
Talking about future, MS will have to sell alot more console to aquire and support studios because at this rate they are heading for a smaller console base than last gen which will mean downsizing. MS, despite what a lot of people think, aren't prepared to throw money at something unless they get profit back for the future. Right now they will have to seriously think what their next steps are.
Sony will produce a steady steam of exclusives. KZ and I:SS already out. Driveclub and The Order in the near future and Naughty Dog have Uncharted 4 and a second project to announce. Plus GG are working on an open world game. Santa Monica also have to make their move, maybe GOW4. And lets not forget that Media Molecule are working on something.
So you see this is what people are trying to tell you, the facts. Sony have games OUT NOW, they HAVE the better multiplats, they HAVE a diverse range of indies, F2P, multiplats and Exclusives. EVEN IF you don't like them, that's your OPINION. Sony have a lot of AAA "budget" games coming.
These isn't to say MS don't have games coming because they do. Quantum Break looks good and even though I'm not keen on GoW or Halo I can recognise those as huge games. Massive infact.
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i admitted i made mistake when listing exclusives when i included Max curse brotherhood. forgot it was indie. i did correct myself there. I don't count indies as proper games which seems to be the dominant amount on the ps4 . I did acknowledge ps4 games. i did say i enjoyed ISS as that was the last big blockbuster game i played that was exclusive to PS4. i just have personal preference when came to Titanfall and KZ. i enjoyed KZ which i stated in the quote tree but if i had a choice,, i would gladly pick Titanfall over KZ due to how smooth the movement and shooting feels in titanfall. Theres nothing wrong with that.
In that case based on your logic both KZ SF and knack are not AAA game based on metecritic despite having a AAA budget . Both games on Metacritic are in the yellow zone . Firstly about E3, i am basing it on what phil said . he said that they have jam packed e3 and that he can't show everythign and that announcements will made pre E3 and post E3 which he has done based on the recent reveals from MS. Whether or not MS will have megaton E3 , well thats left to be seen and we will all see in 5 hours time. I am sure sony will have decent E3 but based on the games they will show on E3 looks disappointing. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-announces-e3-schedule-will-have-70-games-at-its-booth/1100-6420159/ its mostly indies or multiplats . hope the reveals on stage will be awesome.
you forgot to add knack in there as its already out based onwhat we know the ones coming out this year is just MLB and driveclub. Its easy to name gams that don't even have release date . i can do that with MS ones as well. Same goes with Xbox. they would also have steady stream of exclusives coming out. So far we have quantum theory, sunset overdrive, halo5 in the future, the rumored halo ultimate pack , D3 , the 3 japanese games and the one to be revealed at E3, you have blac tusk doing gears game, you have lionhead with the new fable, Crytek will for sure be making the next ryse game in the future, i am sure rare would another ip as well and the rumored third party exclusive which is yet to be announced that MS acquired( the rumor that has been going on).See i can do the same with MS games. thats a fact. I said in my opinion i disagree because to me indies are not proper games and in terms of exclusives that are out now,, there aren't many especially on AAA exclusives. Sony would win by default based on just the amount of indies. remember PS4 has been given the name indiestation. i didn't make this name up. its out there on the internet if you don't beleive me. Theres difference between coming in few years time and coming this year . This year alone apart from ISS theres nothing on AAA side that i wanted to get. was looking foward to teh order but that got delayed till 2015 . might give driveclub a try since its free on psn plus. i expected more from sony this gen which for me hs been proven to be disappointing,
I just indies in general. not my type of games. for me it provides very littl replay valu and often they are broign to play and last 2-4 hours with a exception of few indies that do last beyond that. Some of these indies are not cheap to buy especially if you live in NZ. the psn prices are ridiculous . I have seen some cost half a price of full priced game. Don't take it personal,, i am just biased towards it. If it wasn't for them being free on ps4 psn plus program,, i would have never bought them. To be fair i did enjoy some,, such as braid, limbo, outlast and trine 2. those were cool indie games.
PS : PS2 had a install base close to 160 million whereas PS3 had an install base of 82 million. Thats at least 40 % decrease in install base. i don't beleive Xbox one one would lose tha much in install base.
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Not going to get into a battle with you. I said what I said. I'm not even trying to attack MS so you can list as many exclusive as you want. Please do not try to make this into an argument I'm don't care about. I'm just pointing out your dodgy logic.
I will point out some things you incorrectly said about my post.
I didn't say KZ, Knack or any PS4 game was AAA, that comes down to what opinion you have to what score you consider to be AAA. One I know for certain is that Ryse score of sixty-something isn't AAA.
You are correct about PS3 install base being smaller than PS2 and that's why you've seen Sony downsizing and dropping some studios.
This is a very ignorant statement but will not go into it. "don't count indies as proper games"
I never said you wern't entitled to your opinions, you are. If you prefer TF over KZ I don't care.
I never said MS wouldn't have a bad E3, I'm sure they will have a great E3 infact. They have to come out swinging.
I never said that MS aren't going to release other exclusives, they have some nice exclusives and are no doubt going to announce more at E3. But I will say do not expect to see Ryse 2.
Not sure what youre trying to say about Sony exclusives, you name loads then say "besides those then have no other exclusives".
When I mentioned PS4 exclusives that are surely in the works I didn't do that to attack MS. Just pointing out that Sony have a lot of great studios and big IPs.
You seem to think that I'm attacking MS and your opinions. What I claiming is that you shouldn't claim that Sony do not have exclusives as fact but try and back it up with opinions. Then also treat every game that MS is amazing but yet you find reasons to downplay Sony's.
You have an opinion and that's fine but dont go around stating that Sony have no exclusives when it's a clear lie.
I just realised that by typing that I'm continuing the argument but if I can't get through after this post then I'm out.
