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I would like to have some original games, but I paid U$500 in my WII, no way I'm going to pay more U$120 in each game...

Just hate Brasil, some day I'm going to europe or canada...

1 - Graduate
2 - ???
3 - Profit
4 - Quit Brasil
5 - Buy original games with cute boxes and warranty.



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I have no problem with discontinued or extremely rare media...otherwise...I guess I disapprove, but I'm pretty lax...sometimes it doesn't make sense to me why I can't watch all of a TV show when it used to be free to watch.

I'm all for supporting artists though, so I buy the really good movies and good music. And I never pirate games, I'm definitely 100% against that.



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I hate it when people download games... but then again I download movies for my PSP and music... So I guess I shouldn't really speak.



My stance on Piracy is a little bit iffy, it can hurt the companies, but it can also help the companies too. The only reason I bought Gunstar Heroes on VC was because I had played it on a rom before then and enjoyed it.

Many games I would have simply skipped entirely, simply because it was either too expensive, or just didn't catch my interest until I was actually able to play it for free. It's not like I'm going "Oh, you like that game? Don't bother buying it, I'll give it to you for free!" So really, they aren't losing any money to me, and even stand a chance of gaining money in some cases.

Still, not everyone elsse is like me, so I can understand the reason why piracy shouldn't be allowed. It still happens though, so I try to avoid those aspects of it and only utilize it for its best purposes.



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superchunk said:
I think a person should be paid for what they create. I have in the past taken illegal copies of media, however, since the last few years I absolutely will not. I will not even buy goods I think may have been stolen. It is just wrong.

There is no reason why you can't pay $10-$20 for a cd or dvd. There is no reason why you can't pay $30+ for a game. If you pirate, you are stealing and that is socially and morally wrong and the only reason you do it is because you know it is highly unlikely you will get caught over the internet. Bet you wouldn't walkout of a store with that CD/DVD/game.

When I see these file sharing sites go down, I applaud. When I see the industry sue some people I laugh and say good.

Now, if it is an item that is no longer available on the market, then I would say its ok since the company/creator no longer have interest. Other than that, you are just a common thief.

 I'd hardly say it is socially wrong. Practically everyone I know has pirated something (especially in the under 30 crowd) whether it be music, movies, games or books. Even people who are dedicated to buying what they think is worth it still ends up with a small collection of pirated materials. I've yet to meet someone who refuses to watch a movie, not attend a party (music) or have a go of a video game because their is pirated materials in use.

 Even within content creation industries I've seen piracy. I worked for one company that does computer effects for big name hollywood movies as a sys admin. During my time there, the issue arose that there was an open collection of mp3s and movies avilable on the server to those who wanted it. Funnily, the primary issue was the collection was taking up too much space and utilising large amounts of network resourses, rather than the content being illegal. Although the illegality was used as the justification to the rest of the company to get rid of it, it was presented in such a way that local copies (at that point in time) would not be frowned upon, and anyone who wanted any of this content was to create a local copy before it was removed from the server. Once again, the company was primarily comprised of younger people, so it wasn't surprising.

Copright Infringement (piracy) is also a significantly broad term (hence why stealing is different). Up until 2 years ago, in Australia, copying a legally bought CD to mp3s was considered copyright infrigement. You could pretty much guarentee anyone who owned an mp3 player was infringing copyright. Even now, it is still illegal to transfer DVDs. If it is morally wrong to not purchase a license initally for the work, why is it not morally wrong to ignore that license? You (and others) also agree that if the product is unavailable, then piracy is ok, but the laws guarentee the creators 50+ years of protection, so why is it morally ok to decide they aren't allowed to control their creation distribution?

That said, I agree that copyright has its place but it needs to be heavily revised* to deal with a rapidly changing landscape for media distribution. 

*in particular, no 50+ year content protect, the original 14 years was more than enough.



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I'm For Pirates and I'm against Ninjas.

Pirates FTW!



If it's available for a reasonable price legally, there is no reason to pirate. The problem, of course, is that some people's definition of "reasonable price" is decidedly unreasonable overall... It's understandable to not want to pay $60 for a game (especially if the game's only going to give you 5 or 10 hours' worth of gameplay; who would pay that much for that little?), but when they won't even pay $10 for a quality full-scale 30+ hour game, that's just ridiculous.



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I'm thoroughly against pirate and they can burn in Hell for all I care. I have no problem with things that have been discontinued and things that are incredibly rare (since they're generally discontinued too).

I actually get a good little giggle every time whatever console does some drastic measure to stop pirates and people scream because their modded consoles won't work anymore. They say it's to play imports or "test" games, but it's only for pirating. I really don't care how they convince themselves, it's still wrong and you're taking away money from people who put a lot of hard work into getting you those things.

As for music, I do my best to pay for all of it I can. I don't think I've illegally downloaded anything since iTunes came out. 99 cents is a small price to pay for the convenience of finding the music. Sometimes songs can be difficult to find but I can generally find them on Yahoo or Zune if not iTunes. The only thing I do get around is the damn copy protection crap.

For movies I don't think I've ever illegally downloaded one of those, though I do watch shows every now and then when I miss them for some odd reason. My reasoning behind that is they show them for free anyways, my adblocker stops their advertisements anyways, and I never watch commercials on TV (DVR) or when I do decide to watch the shows on the actual site (like watching Prison Break on Fox.com).



makingmusic476 said:
Pirates should be hung, no questions asked.

Except Jack Sparrow. He's cool

Why is it ok for Jack Sparrow just because he's cool? Why do you care if they are well hung or not? (double entendre)



Piracy does NOT cost the industry any money because most of the people that pirate would not have bought most of the products they pirated anyway. The entertainment companies just say this to try and deter people from doing it. I don't pirate games much because they are worth the money, are not grossly overpriced, and many more copies need to be sold for the company to turn a profit. However, the music and movie industries overcharge for everything and actors and musicians are overpaid bastards and don't deserve half of what they get. I have not bought a CD in at least 7-8 years and I only buy DVDS that are under 10 bucks.



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