Will Wii U outsell PS4 this week? (a wild ioi appears!)

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tbone51 on 02 June 2014

DerNebel said:

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Aerys said:
Well, we will have the VGC guess this week , but we have to wait some days to get real numbers with NPD. :)

Hasnt he been pretty on point with Nintendo HW for a couple months now? Only MS has been drastically off :0

3DS?....

Wasnt it within 10% last month and only off by 1k-2k for Feb+March? WiiU been spot on as well

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Aerys on 02 June 2014

tbone51 said:

Aerys said:
Well, we will have the VGC guess this week , but we have to wait some days to get real numbers with NPD. :)

Hasnt he been pretty on point with Nintendo HW for a couple months now? Only MS has been drastically off :0

PS4, good difference between NPD and VGC , more than 100k.

Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m

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tbone51 said:

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3DS?....

Wasnt it within 10% last month and only off by 1k-2k for Feb+March? WiiU been spot on as well

So you were talking US only, ok. Yeah I think in the US it's tracking was good, I was talking worldwide in 2014.

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Aerys on 02 June 2014

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It's not really difficult to be accurate when you update your datas(and sometimes not adjust at all but people forget), from people who are really accurate and dont guess.

Why do you ignore that the rest of the data is usually within 10% of the NPD before the adjustments

Because a good part of the data are not, so you never know what are guesses invented numbers and what are estimations. So useless

Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m

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tbone51 on 02 June 2014

DerNebel said:

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3DS?....

Wasnt it within 10% last month and only off by 1k-2k for Feb+March? WiiU been spot on as well

So you were talking US only, ok. Yeah I think in the US it's tracking was good, I was talking worldwide in 2014.

Oh i see, 2014 seems to be ok, its just the added 250k-400k per year from 2011-2014 thats off :)

Currently its off by about 900k-1.3mil. I think Vita is off too ( Look at Rest of World #s), PS4 is good as well as WiiU. X1 might be off still, it definitely is in US (dunno by how much)

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kirby007 on 02 June 2014

Hell I totally agree those issues you mention are terrible, but that doesn't mean the rest of the numbers is unuseable like you suggested with your first post.

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Aerys said:

kirby007 said:

Aerys said:
People need to learn to make the differnece between guess and good estimation.

We saw VGC is totally wrong the previous weeks, they just guessed the numbers ( remember : Spiderman on One or Borderlands Vita vs Vita sales. )

fine 3 items over the past what ... 4 months? yes vgc is terrible...... forget all those other games and hardware

being wrong on 3 items discredits the whole database? please

If you dont understand why it discredits the whole database , i can do nothing for you. ( and they made much more than 3 mitakes, please, be honest)

These errors mean everythng : VGC numbers are guessess, how could they make such huge mistake if they were real estimations, they just invented numbers based on nothing, what dont you understand in this ?

Kirby summed up my thoughts against Fusioncode, so II'll talk to you instead, cause you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know how Vgchartz come up with their numbers? They do the same damn thing NPD does, just faster and less accurate. You focus on the mistakes of Vgchartz, and there are many, but you refuse to accept that for the most part they do a great job.

You know what, since you clearly don't know anything about Vgchartz methods I'll try to see if I can find the text where ioi explains it all. Maybe that will make you open your eyes.

Edit: And here we go. Read up on the subject before talking next time.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/82746/editorial-why-it-is-so-easy-to-blame-vgchartz/