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Which will have a better First Week?

XY (4M sold) 53 68.83%
 
OR/AS 16 20.78%
 
Total:69
tbone51 said:


Oh pls no, Pls dont tell me you have HIGH expectations AGAIN! Why would you think it'll do... Watever you think (im guessing you think 11mil-12mil?)

Edit: Im not saying it wont do 10mil+, but thats as likely  as XY doing 17mil - 18mil now imo

If it does that bad compared to Fire Red and Leaf Green then it's definitely not performing well. I would say 9 Million should be the minimum, the maximum should be 11. However, Pokémon has failed me already this generation with X/Y so I'm not expecting it to perform as it should.



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NintendoPie said:
tbone51 said:


Oh pls no, Pls dont tell me you have HIGH expectations AGAIN! Why would you think it'll do... Watever you think (im guessing you think 11mil-12mil?)

Edit: Im not saying it wont do 10mil+, but thats as likely  as XY doing 17mil - 18mil now imo

If it does that bad compared to Fire Red and Leaf Green then it's definitely not performing well. I would say 9 Million should be the minimum, the maximum should be 11. However, Pokémon has failed me already this generation with X/Y so I'm not expecting it to perform as it should.


Exactly failed you. Pokemon XY is doing extremely well, i dont know why you think otherwise. 

Your expectations are once again delusional (yes im srry to say). You obviously dont kno wat your talking about if you think Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire should do 9mil at a Minimum. Not even Gamefreak themselves expect that for a minimum. 

Do you know the difference's between all the games? You sound like a person who said MK8 will have to sell 20mil copies cuz MKWii sold 35mil+ -_-



tbone51 said:


Exactly failed you. Pokemon XY is doing extremely well, i dont know why you think otherwise. 

Your expectations are once again delusional (yes im srry to say). You obviously dont kno wat your talking about if you think Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire should do 9mil at a Minimum. Not even Gamefreak themselves expect that for a minimum. 

Do you know the difference's between all the games? You sound like a person who said MK8 will have to sell 20mil copies cuz MKWii sold 35mil+ -_-

I'm not delusional, I just have expectations and I won't settle for a low performance from games that consistently generate sales of 10+ Million. I can't help that you lower your expectations so things can 'exceed' them.

How do you know GameFreak expects less than 10 Million? Did they send out an official press release? I have a feeling GameFreak wants OR/AS to do comparably to the other two remakes. 10 Million seems like a good enough prediction, and one that isn't too out there. Afterall, the other two did 11 Million + and OR/AS falling short of that would not be a surprise. 

Pokémon X/Y should be able to exceed B/W by a fair amount, not just match it. B/W were an ill-timed release and ended up selling the worst, X/Y came out during the prime of the 3DS and had started off better than several other entries. It wouldn't make sense for X/Y to sell worse than B/W, all I'm expecting X/Y to do now is outsell it. Tell me, how is that "high expectations"? I was never expecting X/Y to do 18+ Million, like some people.



If we get to start off in the back of a U-Haul truck again expect these two to top 6million FW.




Can't we all just get along.If not for yourself, do it for the future.

NintendoPie said:
tbone51 said:

 

I'm not delusional, I just have expectations and I won't settle for a low performance from games that consistently generate sales of 10+ Million. I can't help that you lower your expectations so things can 'exceed' them.

★No just no. Your high *** expectations, look at all the sales, and which games they are! 

 

How do you know GameFreak expects less than 10 Million? Did they send out an official press release? I have a feeling GameFreak wants OR/AS to do comparably to the other two remakes. 10 Million seems like a good enough prediction, and one that isn't too out there. Afterall, the other two did 11 Million + and OR/AS falling short of that would not be a surprise. 

★ How do I know? Seriously? You dont need Gamefreak for this one. XY will do 14mil-16mil lifetime, those are New Pair Gen Games. This is a remake.

1. 3DS<<GBA<<<<<DS (install bases)

2. They are remakes of Gen 1 and Gen 2, by far the most popular games that sold 31mil and 23mil respectively. Remakes of them sold 12mil+12.6mil.

3, Just look at this ~ Pokemon Third Installment(*#Sequel) Compare the first game yellow with the others. Same scenario.

⇒ Yellow: 14.64mil ⇒ Pokemon Crstal: 6.39mil  ⇒ Emerald 6.41mil ⇒ Platinum: 7.60mil  ⇒ Black2/White2: 7.45mil

 There is no F***ing way OmegaRuby+Alpha Sapphire sell close to remakes that are based off 31mil+23mil sales and had both bigger install base!!!

 

Pokémon X/Y should be able to exceed B/W by a fair amount, not just match it. B/W were an ill-timed release and ended up selling the worst, X/Y came out during the prime of the 3DS and had started off better than several other entries. It wouldn't make sense for X/Y to sell worse than B/W, all I'm expecting X/Y to do now is outsell it. Tell me, how is that "high expectations"? I was never expecting X/Y to do 18+ Million, like some people.

★How is XY (around 12mil) going to surpass BW when it has 15.4mil by a fair amount? 

As for the 18mil+, Many predicted it cuz 3ds was doing extremely well at the time but of course gaming in general is falling way down, just look at the sales

Pls get that through your head.

 



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Not even close, X & Y not only were new titles but they had way more hype. Anyone that didn't like those titles the first time wont buy them again, people would have brought X & Y for the new experience and it being the first main Pokemon game on the 3DS. I never liked Ruby when I played it way back when so I wouldn't play it again.



Nope! XY were new titles, while OR and AS are only remakes of older games!



                
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I dont think ive ever seen remakes/ports sell better than new games, so im going to say no.



tbone51 said:
NintendoPie said:

★No just no. Your high *** expectations, look at all the sales, and which games they are! 

★ How do I know? Seriously? You dont need Gamefreak for this one. XY will do 14mil-16mil lifetime, those are New Pair Gen Games. This is a remake.

1. 3DS<

2. They are remakes of Gen 1 and Gen 2, by far the most popular games that sold 31mil and 23mil respectively. Remakes of them sold 12mil+12.6mil.

3, Just look at this ~ Pokemon Third Installment(*#Sequel) Compare the first game yellow with the others. Same scenario.

⇒ Yellow: 14.64mil ⇒ Pokemon Crstal: 6.39mil  ⇒ Emerald 6.41mil ⇒ Platinum: 7.60mil  ⇒ Black2/White2: 7.45mil

 There is no F***ing way OmegaRuby+Alpha Sapphire sell close to remakes that are based off 31mil+23mil sales and had both bigger install base!!!

How is XY (around 12mil) going to surpass BW when it has 15.4mil by a fair amount? 

As for the 18mil+, Many predicted it cuz 3ds was doing extremely well at the time but of course gaming in general is falling way down, just look at the sales

 

Ah, so you didn't actually know what GameFreak was expecting and you were just assuming. Makes more sense. I'm also picking up on you guessing how OR/AS sales are going to go based off of a 50% statistic from the original sales. Or no? Well, this doesn't work. As you can see neither FR/LG or HG/SS sold 50% of the original title's sales. 

I would also like to point out that you contradicted yourself with the bolded. I'm guessing you agree with me on X/Y's sales even though you agreeing with me might not compute. That's an interesting note.

Tell me again, what do you expect X/Y to do this year? Not LTD, just for this year.



NintendoPie said:
tbone51 said:
NintendoPie said:

 

Ah, so you didn't actually know what GameFreak was expecting and you were just assuming. Makes more sense. I'm also picking up on you guessing how OR/AS sales are going to go based off of a 50% statistic from the original sales. Or no? Well, this doesn't work. As you can see neither FR/LG or HG/SS sold 50% of the original title's sales. 

I would also like to point out that you contradicted yourself with the bolded. I'm guessing you agree with me on X/Y's sales even though you agreeing with me might not compute. That's an interesting note.

Tell me again, what do you expect X/Y to do this year? Not LTD, just for this year.

Yes the remakes didnt do 50% of the originals but no matter wat they are based off the high sales games. Just look at other games from nintendo and remakes.

LoZ OoT: 7.5mil+    LoZ OoT 3D: 3.3mil

LoZ WW: 4.2mil      LoZ WW HD: 1.2mil (and counting)

Of course there are some remakes that do as well as the originals but then you have to factor why!

Ex: SM64: 11mil (or i think 12mil?)   SM64 DS: 10mil

Besides being based on the original game (which was huge) it had an almost 5x install base (32mil~155mil+)

 

After seeing XY sales do at the years end+Recent numbers, I expected 1 of 2 things. 1st was based if there was a new pokemon game (not spinoff) coming this year. Since thats true i expect 13.5mil-14mil SOLD. OR/AS will definitely take sales out of XY, especially since irs during holiday.

That said i originally thought there would be no pokemon games this year sort of like D/P⇒Pl. If that was the case then 14mil-15mil, but it most likely wont now. 

Lifetime I see XY doing 14.5mil at Least, 16mil Max? Maybe 17mil depending on Legs.

 

Edit: Just for your info, im not saying its impossible for 11mil, but C'mon. You have to put things into account. The first remakes were very successful because of the origin they came from. LoZ OoT + SM64 DS are proof of this.