How long will the Wii U stay ahead of the PS4 in Japan after next week?It begins-Week one!

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Sharu on 22 May 2014

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anyone thinking Wii U will be ahead lifetime is too young to understand how things work.

You can think Wii U will be ahead during it's lifetime, it is possible maybe, but it wont during all the generation, because PS4 will last longer.
It's insane to think a 4 year console(be realistic) with 1-2 big system seller only by year will outsell a (at least) 6 year console with all 3rd party support

Do you have any proof for 3rd party support for PS4 in Japan? For me it seems that Japan game makers shifted to 3DS/Vita/some niche PS3 games and waiting for how the things will turn out.

Need proof for the obvious ? even with the Wii ahead of the PS3, the PS3 had far much more 3rd party support, japanese 3rd party mostly support sony when it comes to home console.( and yes, you cant do all the games on handheld when you want to make a really ambitious one).

There was already far more exclusive projects developped for PS4 than there is for any other next gen home console( a new tales of, a game by Falcom, a game by team ninja, a game by Suda51, a earth defense force, a game by Level 5) whereas the PS4 werent even available, when the sales will improve ( FFXV, MGS, Resident evil 7, etc.( let alone KH3 coming in 2016 ) ) , other developpers will come on PS4, that's how it worked for Vita, that's how it will work better for PS4 since it will have a lot more big system sellers.

Wow, Resident Evil 7 already announced? Stop speaking fantasies and just write a list of confirmed japan 3rd party games with a names and release detes (or at least release year!). Bullshit like 'insider says that level5 makes a game for ps4 and that game will be more popular than Bible' will not be accepted.

You perfectly understand what i mean, dont spin it, (and it'd be silly to think Resident evil 7 is a fantaisy) all these big games will be on PS4, that's the point.

You asked me proof of 3rd party support on PS4, all these projects are officially in developpement, whether you like it or not, if you cant accept the truth, it's an other problem.

So you can only 'state the obvious'. OK, continue to live on a flat Earth with a Sun going around it.

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Aerys on 22 May 2014

I give you facts and proofs, but you want to stay delusionnal, you think an other home console will has more 3rd party games coming ? Fine give me some proofs elements, if you cant, dont know what to say more... Well, let's talk about that in 1 year.

Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m

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Sharu on 22 May 2014

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I give you facts and proofs, but you want to stay delusionnal, you think an other home console will has more 3rd party games coming ? Fine give me some proofs elements, if you cant, dont know what to say more... Well, let's talk about that in 1 year.

I just telling you that last generation PS3 also got all the 3rd party support, FF13, RE5-6, longer lifetime, but still didn't beat the Wii.
I don't know how this generation will turn out, but until the end of 2014 its crystal clear that PS4 will stay behind WiiU and looking on the release list for 2014 its very likely that the gap will only increase. (Of course we speaking about Japan here)

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Aerys on 22 May 2014

Sharu said:

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I give you facts and proofs, but you want to stay delusionnal, you think an other home console will has more 3rd party games coming ? Fine give me some proofs elements, if you cant, dont know what to say more... Well, let's talk about that in 1 year.

I just telling you that last generation PS3 also got all the 3rd party support, FF13, RE5-6, longer lifetime, but still didn't beat the Wii.
I don't know how this generation will turn out, but until the end of 2014 its crystal clear that PS4 will stay behind WiiU and looking on the release list for 2014 its very likely that the gap will only increase.

Yeah, but you know he WiiU has nothing to do with the Wii, you know why the Wii beat the PS3 and you know the Wii U has not these assets, it would be totally delusional to think for a minute the WiiU will have the level of sales of the Wii . In realistic sales term, the Wii U is more like the Gamecube,in the exact same situation ( except the GC was selling better in the same time period)

Nobody said otherwise for 2014, Wii U will rule 2014 in Japan for home console, the opposite would be worrying when it has so much games.

Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m

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Sharu on 22 May 2014

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Yeah, but you know he WiiU has nothing to do with the Wii, you know why the Wii beat the PS3 and you know the Wii U has not these assets, it would be totally delusional to think for a minute the WiiU will have the level of sales of the Wii . In realistic sales term, the Wii U is more like the Gamecube,in the exact same situation ( except the GC was selling better in the same time period)

Nobody said otherwise for 2014, Wii U will rule 2014 in Japan for home console, the opposite would be worrying when it has so much games.

Yes. But PS4 is not a PS3 either. And you know, Resident Evil 6 is not as popular in Japan as RE2. And FF13-2 is downhill from FF13. And last proper KH game was 9 years ago and its a wildcard. So everything changes, and I think this generation will turn a lot of tables on its go.

So we should wait at least until E3 and maybe then the picture for 2015 game releases for both WiiU and PS4 will be more clear.

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I'm amazed at the amount of faith in the Wii U in here. It's starting to get awkward. I can't comfortably say how long the Wii U will stay ahead of the PS4 until after E3, but either way, I'm not as optimistic as most.

It's just like before the PS4 released who there were so many saying it wasn't going to outsell the WiiU, then we still have members saying the WiiU will be ahead of the PS4 by the end of the year lol

I don't get it. It probably will be?
All indications point to PS4 dropping below WiiU next week and recovery is not certain for months with actual releases of interest. I'm not sure how you so confidently expect PS4 to outsell WiiU and make up for the full year's million+ lead so quickly?

My sig is worldwide, there is no way the WiiU is going to outsell the PS4 worldwide LT....Ever.

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Aerys on 22 May 2014

Sharu said:

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Yeah, but you know he WiiU has nothing to do with the Wii, you know why the Wii beat the PS3 and you know the Wii U has not these assets, it would be totally delusional to think for a minute the WiiU will have the level of sales of the Wii . In realistic sales term, the Wii U is more like the Gamecube,in the exact same situation ( except the GC was selling better in the same time period)

Nobody said otherwise for 2014, Wii U will rule 2014 in Japan for home console, the opposite would be worrying when it has so much games.

Yes. But PS4 is not a PS3 either. And you know, Resident Evil 6 is not as popular in Japan as RE2. And FF13-2 is downhill from FF13. And last proper KH game was 9 years ago and its a wildcard. So everything changes, and I think this generation will turn a lot of tables on its go.

So we should wait at least until E3 and maybe then the picture for 2015 game releases for both WiiU and PS4 will be more clear.

Well, the difference is PS4 could easily be PS3, in better since it's easier to develop for PS4 than PS3 ( which was a big negative for the dev). What is PS3 ? The only home console with all the multiplatform for japanese, There is no logical reason to think that would change.

You really think that could change and Wii U could get the japanese multiplatform games ? Because that is what it would need to get the big exclusives and not be an other GC.

Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m

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Sharu on 22 May 2014

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You really think that could change and Wii U could get the japanese multiplatform games ? Because that is what it would need to get the big exclusives and not be an other GC.

No. I think that Nintendo will get some sales from its 1st party games. At least 5-6 mln in Japan LT is guaranteed on own support. Any 3rd party ex or multy - will be a bonus.
But IF 3rd party games sales/popularity will go down (which is already the case) it will be a kaput for PS4 in Japan, since its exclusives are irrelevant there.