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Forums - Nintendo - Prediction: Christmas 2014 will determine if WiiU will perm be in 3rd place by the end of the gen.

PigPen on 18 May 2014
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
Davman said:

Wii U has 2 serious problems : a) The majority of their games are action/platform

                                                        b) the price is still too high for a console that has four times lower performance than PS4

I bought a Wii U last week, but only for the reason i bought it used for 200 euros. (Waiting for Bayonetta 2 & X )


That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.


Bullshit! the level of graphics PS4/Xone have to handle is far superior than WiiU's.The difference is that nintendo uses "cartoonish" style to hide the graphical limitations of their console.(everything looks good with cartonish shaders/textures!)

You're talking crazy.  You don't really believe that do you?

 

Bayonetta 2 looks awesome.



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WhiteEaglePL on 18 May 2014

Nintendo IS able to hype up the wii u and build plus keep momentum if they do things right.

its their last chance this year imo.



OttoniBastos on 18 May 2014
PigPen said:
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
Davman said:

Wii U has 2 serious problems : a) The majority of their games are action/platform

                                                        b) the price is still too high for a console that has four times lower performance than PS4

I bought a Wii U last week, but only for the reason i bought it used for 200 euros. (Waiting for Bayonetta 2 & X )


That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.


Bullshit! the level of graphics PS4/Xone have to handle is far superior than WiiU's.The difference is that nintendo uses "cartoonish" style to hide the graphical limitations of their console.(everything looks good with cartonish shaders/textures!)

You're talking crazy.  You don't really believe that do you?


I'm serious! WiiU games(graphically speaking) have the same level(or a little better) than PS3/X360.WiiU can't handle a multiplat at the same res/frame than Xone(the console devs are having bad time developing to).

and with time this gap will only increase.It's basically the same difference than Wii/PS3.Any console can run a game at 1080p/60fps as long the graphics are weaker enough.



DerNebel on 18 May 2014
PigPen said:
DerNebel said:
PigPen said:


That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.

That correlation makes no sense.

Huh, that figures coming from you.

A logical statement coming from me? Yeah, I guess that figures.

Let me just explain why your statement makes no sense. You're breaking down graphics to just 2 components: the resolution and the framerate. What about character models, animations, textures, lighting, AA, particle effects, draw distance etc.? Also you're apparently comparing games that aren't even on the same platforms, how does Infamous SS not being 1080p/60fps show that the PS4 isn't 4 times as strong as the Wii U for example?



PigPen on 18 May 2014
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
Davman said:

Wii U has 2 serious problems : a) The majority of their games are action/platform

                                                        b) the price is still too high for a console that has four times lower performance than PS4

I bought a Wii U last week, but only for the reason i bought it used for 200 euros. (Waiting for Bayonetta 2 & X )


That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.


Bullshit! the level of graphics PS4/Xone have to handle is far superior than WiiU's.The difference is that nintendo uses "cartoonish" style to hide the graphical limitations of their console.(everything looks good with cartonish shaders/textures!)

You're talking crazy.  You don't really believe that do you?


I'm serious! WiiU games(graphically speaking) have the same level(or a little better) than PS3/X360.WiiU can't handle a multiplat at the same res/frame than Xone(the console devs are having bad time developing to).

and with time this gap will only increase.It's basically the same difference than Wii/PS3.Any console can run a game at 1080p/60fps as long the graphics are weaker enough.


I don't want to go back and forth with you cause I know you don't no better. The Wii U is a powerhouse (and that's coming from Retro Studios) and way above the X360 & PS3.  You're getting wrong information from the wrong people.



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Mummelmann on 18 May 2014

Personally, I think that is already determined but this holiday season and the following year will show that it is happening.



AnthonyW86 on 18 May 2014
PigPen said:
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
OttoniBastos said:
PigPen said:
Davman said:

Wii U has 2 serious problems : a) The majority of their games are action/platform

                                                        b) the price is still too high for a console that has four times lower performance than PS4

I bought a Wii U last week, but only for the reason i bought it used for 200 euros. (Waiting for Bayonetta 2 & X )


That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.


Bullshit! the level of graphics PS4/Xone have to handle is far superior than WiiU's.The difference is that nintendo uses "cartoonish" style to hide the graphical limitations of their console.(everything looks good with cartonish shaders/textures!)

You're talking crazy.  You don't really believe that do you?


I'm serious! WiiU games(graphically speaking) have the same level(or a little better) than PS3/X360.WiiU can't handle a multiplat at the same res/frame than Xone(the console devs are having bad time developing to).

and with time this gap will only increase.It's basically the same difference than Wii/PS3.Any console can run a game at 1080p/60fps as long the graphics are weaker enough.


I don't want to go back and forth with you cause I know you don't no better. The Wii U is a powerhouse (and that's coming from Retro Studios) and way above the X360 & PS3.  You're getting wrong information from the wrong people.

I've said this before but both XOne and PS4 could run any Wii-U game in 4k resolution. They both have atleast 4 times the graphics computing power (ps4 atleast 6 times) and 4 times the amount of memory of the Wii-U. Also that memory is 6 times faster in tne XOne and a whopping 15 times faster in the PS4. The only reason why some Wii-U games look good is because they are exclusives. Any Wii-U multi platform game is a glorified x360/ps3 game. If a game like MK8 was developed for the PS4 from the ground up it could run the same graphical fidelty at 4k at 60 fps. Only the developer would probably opt for much better textures, effects etc. and go with 1080p.

On-topic: The Wii-U ending in last place is already a given fact. They only have two games that will boost hardware, and that's it.



LiquorandGunFun on 18 May 2014

Nooope.



 

MoHasanie on 18 May 2014

Its guranteed to finish last.



    

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Gnac on 18 May 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
RolStoppable said:

No, I meant it is already clear that it will finish in third place. The point in time that determined that outcome was in the past, so it's not going to be in the future.

and at what point in the past was that?

When the successor to the Wii was announced to be in development.



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