Max King of the Wild said:
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So now you're denying what you said, that Nintendo would not be able to cut the price of the Wii U because manufacturing costs wouldn't diminish?
Max King of the Wild said:
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So now you're denying what you said, that Nintendo would not be able to cut the price of the Wii U because manufacturing costs wouldn't diminish?
episteme said: Only if they reach their 3.6M forecast, right? More units produced -> lower costs per unit |
No. Its a details from investor briefing. 3.6 m forecast is separate from "Nintendo not experiencing a loss from hardware anymore"
Good. At least they won't loss anymore money.
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Shouldn't be too difficult to post a profit next year, then...
Same guy tweeted that Iwata ended the briefing by saying that the 3.6 million target is conservative and not Wii U's peak sales:
Iwata - the WiiU forecast of 3.6m don't think it is peak, wanted to be more conservative this year. Meeting ends.
— David Gibson (@gibbogame) May 8, 2014
Asriel said: Shouldn't be too difficult to post a profit next year, then... Same guy tweeted that Iwata ended the briefing by saying that the 3.6 million target is conservative and not Wii U's peak sales:
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No point in forecasting 3.6m if they expect to sell more. Lies.
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Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor
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I made a decent guess at the very least. About time they got cost below sales price.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5774523
They still have limited leverage for price cuts though; I wonder if they'll accept going into the red again by slashing the price in Q4? They might have to if they want any momentum. Then again; from a business standpoint, profits trumphs a slightly increased installed base, so they might opt for keeping the price and focus more on bundles instead.
Yakuzaice said: What is the actual quote and its context? Because in their financial statement they said "The “Wii U” hardware still has a negative impact on Nintendo’s profits owing mainly to itsmarkdown in the United States and Europe" |
Think of it this way:
Regular priced Wii U => profit margin = $25
Markdown priced Wii U => profit margin = $0.25
This is how a markdown can have negative impact on the profitability of a product without selling at a loss.
(Disclaimer: These hard numbers are completely made up to illustrate an idea, if you feel compelled to reply with something along the lines of "But but but, the procedrop in US is more than $25, your numbers don't add up. Please don't do it. Numbers are for illustrative purposes only.)
Pavolink said:
No point in forecasting 3.6m if they expect to sell more. Lies. |
There is good reason to put out a "conservative" estimate given where they're at. If they put their estimate at a level comparable to last year, they seem too out of touch.
They don't exactly expect to sell a ton more, but they'll take what they know they can get.
Everyone knows that a breakthrough WiiU year could be in the cards -- but the odds of that are like hitting a straight flush. Ace in the pocket -- but we have no idea what's on the river.
I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016
fleischr said:
There is good reason to put out a "conservative" estimate given where they're at. If they put their estimate at a level comparable to last year, they seem too out of touch. They don't exactly expect to sell a ton more, but they'll take what they know they can get. Everyone knows that a breakthrough WiiU year could be in the cards -- but the odds of that are like hitting a straight flush. Ace in the pocket -- but we have no idea what's on the river. |
We actually have. MK8 for May and SSB for holiday are the big guns for this year. 6 months one from the other apart.
NFP games could be for next year as they only expect to show some games in development. No confirmation of releasing this year and I'd add that no Zelda trailer confirmation for this E3. In fact, they didn't mentioned.
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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe
Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor
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Asriel said: Shouldn't be too difficult to post a profit next year, then... Same guy tweeted that Iwata ended the briefing by saying that the 3.6 million target is conservative and not Wii U's peak sales:
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There are more costs associated to selling hardware than the basic costs of manufacturing. There's actually quite a lot not included in that. Very strong SW sales will still be needed.