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If gamers wouldn't care about TV functions we wouldn't have like 100 different TV apps on the consoles (already for PS3 and Xbox 360). We have them because they are a success on these consoles because most gamers are interested in TV stuff.



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TheSting said:


Cop out? 75% lol stop man. You guys? So you are definitely trying to flame the fake wars. Thats why you keep repeating that shit? Why add on to the mess that is ongoing?

you and j_allard really have short term memory problems. j_allard thinks that Xbox fans didn't brag about multiplatform games performing better on 360 and here you are thinking that the mantra of Xbox fans last gen wasn't "we just care about the games" when talks of extra features boosting value came up, because you could get a 360 for cheaper and that's all that mattered. 

You need to increase your omega-3 fatty acid and ginkgo intake.



Something I think is a hidden negative of the HDMI passthrough is the sizable power waste that happens when using it. In retrospect it would have been wise to add a dirt cheap arm CPU so that it would use 5w during TV, rather than 100+w.



kitler53 said:
VitroBahllee said:
kitler53 said:
celador said:

A lot of people will only have one TV and so will want something under it that can cover as many bases as possible, and maybe for some people that is Xbox.  You're not in that situation.  p.e.o.p.l.e.a.r.e.d.i.f.f.e.r.e.n.t.

while i get that p.e.o.p.l.e.a.r.e.d.i.f.f.e.r.e.n.t,... the average US household has 3.1 TVs.    ...and i'd be willing to bet the housholds able to purchase a $500 gaming machine are far more likely to have more than 1 tv than the households unable to afford xbone.


Participants in the average marriage don't typically sit in different rooms doing totally different things all night long like you claim you and your wife do.


i never said all night long.   but when american idol, the voice, x-factor or any of that other shit my wife wants to watch goes on i leave posthaste.  she hates gaming as much as i hate shitty tv so it works.

honestly, based on your reply you are either single or lying to yourself.

Wow, that's a hugely personal insult. No, I married someone I actually like.



rolltide101x said:
VitroBahllee said:
Xbox One is on in my living room whenever the TV is on. The Xbox One turns on my TV and my Audio Receiver and my Cable Box. EVERYTHING watched in my living room either is generated by or passes through the Xbox One. Adding more to that cannot hurt.


So you add wear and tear to a console to watch tv? *face palm*


Seriously? I use a console the way it was intended, so you 'facepalm' because of it? Enjoy your next happy meal.



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VitroBahllee said:
kitler53 said:
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i never said all night long.   but when american idol, the voice, x-factor or any of that other shit my wife wants to watch goes on i leave posthaste.  she hates gaming as much as i hate shitty tv so it works.

honestly, based on your reply you are either single or lying to yourself.

Wow, that's a hugely personal insult. No, I married someone I actually like.

what more of a huge personal insult is your insinuation that i don't love my wife just because we have a few unquie interests.

either your relationship is a unicorn or (much more likely) your lying.  no one spents 100% of their time together.



VitroBahllee said:
rolltide101x said:
VitroBahllee said:
Xbox One is on in my living room whenever the TV is on. The Xbox One turns on my TV and my Audio Receiver and my Cable Box. EVERYTHING watched in my living room either is generated by or passes through the Xbox One. Adding more to that cannot hurt.


So you add wear and tear to a console to watch tv? *face palm*


Seriously? I use a console the way it was intended, so you 'facepalm' because of it? Enjoy your next happy meal.

I think the 'wear and tear' is a bit silly. Probably almost no wear/tear if there is no disc spinning.

However I think the power usage is wasteful unless you're heavily using snap/etc.

Hopefully the next revision of XB1 addresses that. The power brick sucks a good bit of juice even when the unit isn't technically 'on'.

From another user :

I had to do a rough electrical audit of my house for a solar technologies, and I measured how much power the X1 is pulling. The numbers are higher than what I had seen reported before launch and thought some may find them interesting.

  • In game: 125 watts

  • Standy(with instant on): 33 watts

  • Watching TV: 122 watts

The biggest concern is how much power the Xbox is consuming while you are watching TV.

To put things in perspective my 52 inch Vizio draws 185 watts, so that's a 66% increase in power to watch TV with the xbox connected.

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The PS4 uses a good bit of juice in use as well. So someone using the PS4 to stream is using similar power to the XB1. But in the XB1's case, say you're using the XB1 to tune your cable box to your TV :

That means you're using :

Cable Box (15-75w depending on model)

XB1 (100w+)

TV (??W, too varied to mention)

Adding a little ARM hardware to the XB1 could cut that down to 5W or so, as the main system could truly go idle while the TV tuning is in use.



kitler53 said:
VitroBahllee said:
kitler53 said:
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i never said all night long.   but when american idol, the voice, x-factor or any of that other shit my wife wants to watch goes on i leave posthaste.  she hates gaming as much as i hate shitty tv so it works.

honestly, based on your reply you are either single or lying to yourself.

Wow, that's a hugely personal insult. No, I married someone I actually like.

what more of a huge personal insult is your insinuation that i don't love my wife just because we have a few unquie interests.

either your relationship is a unicorn or (much more likely) your lying.  no one spents 100% of their time together.


I'm probably lying because my wife and I don't have seperate TVs in seperate rooms we watch different things on because we each hate what the other one likes? And there is no grey area in your mind between living different lives in seperate rooms much of the day and "spending 100% of their time together?"

I have a few 'unquie' interests too, but that doesn't mean that we spend much of each day in seperate rooms just so we can each do seperate things. In fact, the Xbox One's 'snap' feature helps with this. As does the Wii U's gamepad. I'll admit we spend some parts of each day on seperate computing devices in the same room, but we are still in communication with each other. Not to mention that most of our 'alone time' is spent during our daily commutes to our jobs, and that the amount of time we can possibly spend together isn't huge because we are at work most of the day. And several hours of the rest of it is spent with our infant son. We certainly aren't eager to sit in seperate rooms for some of the little remaining time.



VitroBahllee said:
Squeezol said:
VitroBahllee said:
Everybody who thinks the Xbox One makes no sense is clearly determined not to understand.

My WIFE is fine with turning on the tv through a video game console. Even -I- did not see that coming. Some people who like video games DO care about TV, netflix, ted talks, etc.

Yes, but 'some' is not really enough.


Hahahaha! You think that people who crouch on internet forums declaiming not to like anything other than video games are more numerous than well-rounded people who like video games AND watching television/netflix? Are you serious?!?! HAHAHAHAHA

take ps3/x360 install base and compare number of netflix subscribers to non subscribers and you have your answer (psst,  a larger portion use consoles fir games only)  and why is this exactly? 

 

here i'll tell you. 

cable boxes are better,  tivos and similar can actually record shows, the people that want tv AND games simply turn off thier console and,  as luck woukd have it,  the tv features there were there all along,  still are there. 



lucidium said:
VitroBahllee said:
Squeezol said:
VitroBahllee said:
Everybody who thinks the Xbox One makes no sense is clearly determined not to understand.

My WIFE is fine with turning on the tv through a video game console. Even -I- did not see that coming. Some people who like video games DO care about TV, netflix, ted talks, etc.

Yes, but 'some' is not really enough.


Hahahaha! You think that people who crouch on internet forums declaiming not to like anything other than video games are more numerous than well-rounded people who like video games AND watching television/netflix? Are you serious?!?! HAHAHAHAHA

take ps3/x360 install base and compare number of netflix subscribers to non subscribers and you have your answer (psst,  a larger portion use consoles fir games only)  and why is this exactly? 

 

here i'll tell you. 

cable boxes are better,  tivos and similar can actually record shows, the people that want tv AND games simply turn off thier console and,  as luck woukd have it,  the tv features there were there all along,  still are there. 

Not sure why you are using Netflix as your measurement.  I am sure if you used all of the media apps and othe features of the PS3 and 360 it would show that people on those consoles use a lot of those features and may even clock in more time doing things other than gaming.  With my family its probably more media than games as far as hours go but thats because the whole family use the media feautures and only a few play games.