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kirby007 on 27 April 2014

vgchartz bashing is getting a little sad



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kirby007 on 27 April 2014

@ production numbers sony is at 800k ww max



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Zekkyou on 27 April 2014
kirby007 said:
vgchartz bashing is getting a little sad

I'd say the unreliability of VGC's number the last few months has been more sad ^^;



colafitte on 27 April 2014

I said this in the thread Kowen is referring to, and i'm not pulling it back.

20m for PS4 and 10m for Xbox One are "best case scenarios". For me, most probably will be around 18m for PS4 and 9m for Xbox One at the end of the year.

If PS4 had 7m until 1st April. I expect perfectably 10m or more for the rest of the year, because I expect a huge boost christmas sales, like around 5-6m for Nov-Dec, so PS4 "only" needs to sell around 5m between April and October (7 months, 715k per month). With Watch Dogs, TLOU Remastered and Destiny among others launching in that period of time, i think is possible.



Zekkyou on 27 April 2014
kowenicki said:

Nobody is saying thay are mega accurate and I'm not sure NPD can say that they are mega accurate either tbh.

But to flip flop from metaphorically masturbating over them one week when ps4 numbers look great to throwing toys out of the pram the next is deeply embarrassing for those individuals. 

Take the numbers for what they are and if/when more concrete data helps later (ie shipment data) then simply point this out.

Increased price + no major releases = more sales. Seems legit.

You're right, it would be foolish for us to discuss why these numbers seem wrong based on something as trivial as common scene ^^



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Carl on 27 April 2014

Free estimations.

VGChartz numbers are free estimations with a margin of error. Some of the OTT reactions in this thread are facepalm worthy.

Take the numbers for what they are. Estimations.



                            

bubblegamer on 27 April 2014
Carl2291 said:
Free estimations.

VGChartz numbers are free estimations with a margin of error. Some of the OTT reactions in this thread are facepalm worthy.

Take the numbers for what they are. Estimations.


Estimation shouldn't be so bad! Nothing has been poiting to these numbers. At least make it credible. Otherwise why bother?



Carl on 27 April 2014
bubblegamer said:
Carl2291 said:
Free estimations.

VGChartz numbers are free estimations with a margin of error. Some of the OTT reactions in this thread are facepalm worthy.

Take the numbers for what they are. Estimations.


Estimation shouldn't be so bad! Nothing has been poiting to these numbers. At least make it credible. Otherwise why bother?

If there were other Weekly numbers to compare with, or if you were paying for VGC numbers, sure... Be outraged.

To be outraged at free Weekly, Global estimations that get adjusted up and down literally every Week is taking things over the line. What other videogame sales tracker offers what VGChartz offers?



                            

Hankoney on 27 April 2014
Carl2291 said:
Free estimations.

VGChartz numbers are free estimations with a margin of error. Some of the OTT reactions in this thread are facepalm worthy.

Take the numbers for what they are. Estimations.


You are absolutely correct. However, margin of error of those estimations is sometimes really poor. 

Sometimes it seems that we would get more accurate numbers from random.org than from vgc.com.



bubblegamer on 27 April 2014
Carl2291 said:
bubblegamer said:
Carl2291 said:
Free estimations.

VGChartz numbers are free estimations with a margin of error. Some of the OTT reactions in this thread are facepalm worthy.

Take the numbers for what they are. Estimations.


Estimation shouldn't be so bad! Nothing has been poiting to these numbers. At least make it credible. Otherwise why bother?

If there were other Weekly numbers to compare with, or if you were paying for VGC numbers, sure... Be outraged.

To be outraged at free Weekly, Global estimations that get adjusted up and down literally every Week is taking things over the line. What other videogame sales tracker offers what VGChartz offers?

Stating something doesn't mean you have to outraged about it. And we have those numbers. NPD, Chart track and the japanese trackers all conflict with the numbers this website has been providing for the last couple of months. We're closest to the japanese one's, but the rest? Not so much.