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deskpro2k3 on 23 April 2014

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If FFXIV was hyped up similarly like Titanfall, it would be a hype to believe. I remember the launch of 2.0. Square Enix servers couldn't handle the amount of players trying to log in. It was like 100k per sec.. Just imagine what would happened if FFXIV was hyped up like Titanfall.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 23 April 2014
kupomogli said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

it would be /thread except for the fact. multiconsole and port are semantically the same thing, not to mention FFXIV is down ported from GLORIOUS PC MASTER RACE and has near-visual parity with it, while Titan Fall doesn't hit 1080, (developed on "Modified" Source Engine so its likely it started development on the 360) was upported to PC, hence the obvious lack of optimization, would cost full price if not given away for free, and cost a live subscription anyway.

Ports are multiconsole titles, but don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about and spin the sentence because I'm not using the technical terms.

The technical term of multiconsole is a game that's on more than one console.  Although you don't hear people calling games from different generations that are later ported over to a system a multiconsole release?  They're called ports.  A multiconsole release is a release that's comes out at the same time or they were developed together so it's a close proximity of time.   Even though being released later, games like Titanfall for the 360 and Watch Dogs for the Wii U are multiconsole rather than ports because they were being developed for release along with the other versions.

The technical term of a port is a game that's developed after the it was already developed for a lead console.  Many multiconsole releases are ports, developed for one console first and ported over to the other.  However the word port is commonly used for a game that is ported from one console to another after the game has already been developed and released.

T_T I just woke up from being sick so pardon my lack of usual patience and understanding but...multiconsole is not a technical term, you literally just made it up to fit the circumstances. What you are looking for is multi-platform. 360 Titan Fall and Watch_dogs are ports, down ports because they come from a higher generation of console. However, since most games are developed on PC and developed on consoles, most games are generally down ports.

For example, Crysis 3 is a down port on consoles. 

Because Titan Fall was finalized on the XB1 and ported to PC, it was upported, hence the lack of opptimization, not to mention the deliberate attempts to stymie the pc release such as uncompressed audio files.

So once again I reiterate, the only differences between Titan Fall and FFXIV are genre, scale, and marketting.

None of this useless port buisness, they are both multi-platform. They have the same Metacritic, etc...



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T.Rexington on 23 April 2014

MMO's on consoles don't exactly create the hype people think they do. It can be successful, but it's not something people really go crazy over in my opinion. Plus, FFXIV has been out a long time on the PC alone. It's essentially port vs brand new game. Yeah, TF mirrors it in terms of platform availability, but it isn't four years old either.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 24 April 2014
T.Rexington said:
MMO's on consoles don't exactly create the hype people think they do. It can be successful, but it's not something people really go crazy over in my opinion. Plus, FFXIV has been out a long time on the PC alone. It's essentially port vs brand new game. Yeah, TF mirrors it in terms of platform availability, but it isn't four years old either.

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bigjon on 24 April 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Zekkyou said:

It may lose many FF fans, but it also gains MMO fans. They are perhaps the most dedicated group of gamers you will find anywhere :P

The thread isn't asking why FF14 isn't as hyped up, but why is it not considered as big an exclusive. To that i'd say that while the overall effect of TF and FF14 will be equally large, TF's is immediate but short lived while FF14's is slow and long lasting (by comparison). 

The PS4 in general is going to benefit a lot from it's appeal to MMO gamers.

I feel the OP is asking why isn't FFXIV getting as much attention as Titanfall. The simple answer is probably the original launch turned people off and the subscription fee.

Also, the MMO genre is kinda niche on consoles.

my intent was not discuss mass hype as its pretty obvious. MS marketed the heck out of TF and released 1st on the XB1 where FFXIV got on PS4 last with moderate advertising at best. I am was gearing it more for people to view it objectively and see through the hype. In regards to the entire library (which is what most people consider when buying a console) it adds more. TF is just another FPS game. FFXIV is what I think is possibly the 1st MMO of any kind to work with great results on a console. FPS only fans are probably leaning towards an XB1 anyways because of Halo>greater than any exclusive FPS on PS. Its the people, like me honestly, who like FPS games but also love and enjoy other genres particulary RPG games.

Its about diversity. TF adds none. FFXIV adds alot. If TES Online is any good on a console (skeptical but FFXIV has shown me it can be done) than the XB1 will have at least one viable option for MMO/RPG fans.



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bigjon on 24 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
T.Rexington said:
MMO's on consoles don't exactly create the hype people think they do. It can be successful, but it's not something people really go crazy over in my opinion. Plus, FFXIV has been out a long time on the PC alone. It's essentially port vs brand new game. Yeah, TF mirrors it in terms of platform availability, but it isn't four years old either.

 


ARR came out late last summer it is not the same game that came out 4 years ago. And to your 1st point, do you think it is possible that the reason no one gets hyped for a console MMO is because they traditionally sucked? FFXIV could be a watershed game for the Genre as it relates to consoles. Remember in a time before Goldeneye no one got hyped for FPS games on a console? You know why? Because before that they were just not that good.

FFXIV is the most inovative game currently availible on an eight gen console. Not because it adds much new to the MMO genre, well except it is playable on a console... i guess that is kind of a big deal.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2014
bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Zekkyou said:

It may lose many FF fans, but it also gains MMO fans. They are perhaps the most dedicated group of gamers you will find anywhere :P

The thread isn't asking why FF14 isn't as hyped up, but why is it not considered as big an exclusive. To that i'd say that while the overall effect of TF and FF14 will be equally large, TF's is immediate but short lived while FF14's is slow and long lasting (by comparison). 

The PS4 in general is going to benefit a lot from it's appeal to MMO gamers.

I feel the OP is asking why isn't FFXIV getting as much attention as Titanfall. The simple answer is probably the original launch turned people off and the subscription fee.

Also, the MMO genre is kinda niche on consoles.

my intent was not discuss mass hype as its pretty obvious. MS marketed the heck out of TF and released 1st on the XB1 where FFXIV got on PS4 last with moderate advertising at best. I am was gearing it more for people to view it objectively and see through the hype. In regards to the entire library (which is what most people consider when buying a console) it adds more. TF is just another FPS game. FFXIV is what I think is possibly the 1st MMO of any kind to work with great results on a console. FPS only fans are probably leaning towards an XB1 anyways because of Halo>greater than any exclusive FPS on PS. Its the people, like me honestly, who like FPS games but also love and enjoy other genres particulary RPG games.

Its about diversity. TF adds none. FFXIV adds alot. If TES Online is any good on a console (skeptical but FFXIV has shown me it can be done) than the XB1 will have at least one viable option for MMO/RPG fans.

FF XIV might be getting more attention then it deserves because of the FF IP. That's the sole reasons many people even try it. Hence, that isn't looking at the game objectively.

I disagree about Titanfall adding no diversity. I do believe it adds diverity given there isn't another shooter quite like it on consoles. It very different from Halo, Gears, Killzone, BF, CoD, etc. Titfanfall appeals to me for reasons beyond the point and shoot mechanics.



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Zekkyou on 24 April 2014

I really don't understand people's complaints about the sub .-. For $60 you get the game and 3 months of play time. After that each $60 gets you about 5 months of constant play time. I'd like to see how many people play a new $60 for even a month, let alone 2, 3, 4 etc.

Saying that, FF14's 2 million players makes it pretty clear that those who actually play the game can see the value in it :P



Uabit on 24 April 2014

Because people on the internet is ****** this days.



d21lewis on 24 April 2014

Was it considered a big exclusive or was it just considered a big game?