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sales2099 on 23 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:

Hides? We know. You talk like we are in the 7th gen....Sony took our paywall culture a while ago.

Oh and saying "at least" is the universal: "You win but here take this unrelated point to descredit you in said victory"

A paywall that doesn't affect MMOs, YouTube, Netflix, the Internet browser...

Titan Fall doesn't have single player, so its basically an MMO with XBl as a subscription fee.

Ah but wouldn't any real pS4 gamers here be suscribed to PS Plus anyway for one game or another?The end result is the same.

Do you even know what a MMO is? lol you usually are on point with debates but here you confuse Titanfall with a MMO and think that PS4 suddenly isn't using a paywall.

Look, Puggsly answered the thread. The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple. lol even in victory you feel you have to run to the defense of every game on your precious console. Just let it go.



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sales2099 on 23 April 2014
soicanignorethefools said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Mr Puggsly said:

stuff

At least FFXIV had the decency to tell gamers that it has subsctiptions, while TitanFall hides behind XBL "accepted" pay wall.


So you missed the part on the front cover where (depending on the version) it clearly states "Online Only" and "Xbox Live Gold Required" and "Sold Separately"?





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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 23 April 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Once again, nobody is debating the quality of FFXIV.

The lack of hype is due to the subscription fees.

considering the XBL requirement doesn't it have a subscription to? Albeit a cheaper one, but

#yougetwhatyoupayfor

multiplayer only + multiplayer subscription = scam 

how come nobody is talking about this.

Are you new to the internet? People complained for years and years about the Xbox Live subscription fees. People only recently became accepting of it because Sony started charging for online play.

$60 a year (or less) to play many different games online is an easier pill to swallow than $15 a month ($180 a year) to play a single game online.

We aren't talking about other games, we are talking about Titan Fall and FFXIV.

Why would I care if people have been complaining about Xbox Live fees?

If Titan Fall had offline multiplayer, this wouldn't be an issue.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 23 April 2014
sales2099 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:
 

Hides? We know. You talk like we are in the 7th gen....Sony took our paywall culture a while ago.

Oh and saying "at least" is the universal: "You win but here take this unrelated point to descredit you in said victory"

A paywall that doesn't affect MMOs, YouTube, Netflix, the Internet browser...

Titan Fall doesn't have single player, so its basically an MMO with XBl as a subscription fee.

Ah but wouldn't any real pS4 gamers here be suscribed to PS Plus anyway for one game or another?The end result is the same.

Do you even know what a MMO is? lol you usually are on point with debates but here you confuse Titanfall with a MMO and think that PS4 suddenly isn't using a paywall.

Look, Puggsly answered the thread. The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple. lol even in victory you feel you have to run to the defense of every game on your precious console. Just let it go.

Well, the online only games on PS4 don't have subscriptions so... Why does Titan Fall require Xbox Live?



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Mr Puggsly on 23 April 2014
brendude13 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Once again, nobody is debating the quality of FFXIV.

The lack of hype is due to the subscription fees.
selnor1983 said:
Because Final Fantasy is the very definition of a massive pile of turd.

Once upon a time Final Fantasy was Godly. The series was amazing. 

Since 9 FF has been downhill. 10 was still ok. 11 terrible, 12 diabolicle and 13 is not even worth wasting my saliva over. Final Fantasy needs to go into the ground and never come back up.

A. He's entitled to his opinion

B. He's probably right

C. He didn't really say anything about FFXIV.



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sales2099 on 23 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:

Ah but wouldn't any real pS4 gamers here be suscribed to PS Plus anyway for one game or another?The end result is the same.

Do you even know what a MMO is? lol you usually are on point with debates but here you confuse Titanfall with a MMO and think that PS4 suddenly isn't using a paywall.

Look, Puggsly answered the thread. The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple. lol even in victory you feel you have to run to the defense of every game on your precious console. Just let it go.

Well, the online only games on PS4 don't have subscriptions so... Why does Titan Fall require Xbox Live?

Um....PS+ is required for all online MP for PS4, just like how all online MP requires Xbox Live Gold. Don't know how to make it any simpler.

To reiterate the main point home: The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, extra subscription fee ontop of PS+, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 23 April 2014
sales2099 said:

Um....PS+ is required for all online MP for PS4, just like how all online MP requires Xbox Live Gold. Don't know how to make it any simpler.

To reiterate the main point home: The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, extra subscription fee ontop of PS+, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple.

Simplicity doesn't matter if the statement is wrong. FTPs do not require PS+, FTPs are always online, Subscription based MMOs do not require plus, MMO tend to be always online. 

Plus does not affect FFXIV's subscription fee.

A simple bing search will prove this or SE's website: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/product/

Don't worry, I've got a screenshot for convience.



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Mr Puggsly on 23 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Well, the online only games on PS4 don't have subscriptions so... Why does Titan Fall require Xbox Live?

Dude, I seriously don't give a shit. I subscribe to both Live and PS+.

If someone wants to play a subscription based MMO, but doesen't wanna pay for Live. Too fucking bad, stop playing Xbox.

Is this seriously the biggest concern of your day? If so I wanna trade lives.

 

I'm done with this thread. Good day!



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sales2099 on 23 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:

Um....PS+ is required for all online MP for PS4, just like how all online MP requires Xbox Live Gold. Don't know how to make it any simpler.

To reiterate the main point home: The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, extra subscription fee ontop of PS+, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple.

Simplicity doesn't matter if the statement is wrong. FTPs do not require PS+, FTPs are always online, Subscription based MMOs do not require plus, MMO tend to be always online. 

Plus does not affect FFXIV's subscription fee.

A simple bing search will prove this or SE's website: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/product/

 

Don't worry, I've got a screenshot for convience.

 

Like I allready said......any gamer worth their salt would be allready suscribed to PS+ for its other MP games.

You fighting the good fight for the few gamers that would buy a PS4 for FF14 and no other MP games for the lifetime of their purchase? lol you are too much.

Your kind can't do 2 subscriptions at the same time, too much too soon.

STILL doesn't change facts how Titanfall is just a more all around desirable game then the PS4 version of FF14.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 23 April 2014
sales2099 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
sales2099 said:

Um....PS+ is required for all online MP for PS4, just like how all online MP requires Xbox Live Gold. Don't know how to make it any simpler.

To reiterate the main point home: The origional version turned off gamers, MMO's are niche on consoles, extra subscription fee ontop of PS+, and FF IP is on a downward trend. Done. Simple.

Simplicity doesn't matter if the statement is wrong. FTPs do not require PS+, FTPs are always online, Subscription based MMOs do not require plus, MMO tend to be always online. 

Plus does not affect FFXIV's subscription fee.

A simple bing search will prove this or SE's website: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/product/

 

Don't worry, I've got a screenshot for convience.

 

Like I allready said......any gamer worth their salt would be allready suscribed to PS+ for its other MP games.

You fighting the good fight for the few gamers that would buy a PS4 for FF14 and no other MP games for the lifetime of their purchase? lol you are too much.

Your kind can't do 2 subscriptions at the same time, too much too soon.

STILL doesn't change facts how Titanfall is just a more all around desirable game then the PS4 version of FF14.

ESO is a multiplayer game. FTPs are multiplayer games. No Plus needed. :D

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Wow Seece is a celebrity.



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