I wanna join the cool kid grp? Why does it matter if system  releases 10 more games than system B? Both systems are gonna have awesome games anyway so if in reality if you are segregating your self your just cutting your gaming experience in half maybe even thirds or more!!! Buy all sytems and be a gamer not fanboy

Surely having a much less restrictive policy with indies about multiplats, and catching every opportunity to let them know, paid.

good post Shinobi

We dont talk about it because we have an agenda. It really is that simple.  And most of your posts dissapoints with your overly defensive generalizing statements when most people can very clearly see the full picture, or i can be just like you and act like this list isnt an e-penis battle to justify my purchase.  If youre not a part of the problem then nobody is talking about you, so no need to be defensive.  so not really upset with you not liking me for the 2nd time.  After all you once told me that nobody respected me xD  That was funny as you can look around and clearly see that wasnt true. Love me or hate me my stance will always remain the same, games > Platforms and in this case a list is just a list, nothing more.  It means nothing more than a raw number with no true merit.

You say this isnt true and then respond with XBO has a stronger retail library.  News flash, WiiU has a stronger library than both XBO and PS4 currently.

Really lets take a look about ports

Flower
Injustice
Warframe
Blacklight
DC
Escape Plan
Flow
Dont Starve
Dead Nation
Towerfall
FEZ

These are just off the top of my head.  And the last statement means just what it said.  Most of the games on PS4 hasnt really turned out well.  Its like bragging that XBO has Lococycle.  You just dont do that.  Its like youre going on some huge tangent with me as you usually do with "generalizing fanbases" but in this case i never once mentioned sony fans or Microsoft fans. I simply said throwing numbers around is just that, nothing more.  Funny we do that but ignore everything with even more games right? xD  no you wont agree with that, after all you seem to be pushing an agenda much more than me. After all im not the only one to say the lists are a bit lacking, but youre right, clearly everybody is wrong for doubting such amazing lists.   

It's pointless to make some abstract qualifer to filter the results and forward your agenda . By your logic one could easily claim that a system has no games because only Xbox/PS games appeal to them. Therefore, even the PS2 and PS3 have no games currently. Do you see how pointless it is? The list counters the argument that PS4 has no games, it has more than the XB1 currently. Games are Games. Personal Opinions are irrelevant. 

I think both you and me know that when people say PS4 has no games, and this is the same whether it is being said about Vita, PS4, XBO, WiiU, etc is that their is no worthwhile games.  Not that it literally has no games. Maybe you should deal with that.

And again, you guys are arguing with me because i say that lists are pointless?  they are and ill say it 100 times.  Having 1m games doesnt mean theyre is 1m good games.  

And youre right, Lococycle is on the list, but then again i dont see people bragging about Lococycle while i see people on the other side bragging about a list of games filled with the same quality titles as lococycle.

I've actually seen some people on the X1 boards saying the same thing that nothing comes out until like November.

Quality is irrelevant, the list is concerned with Quantity. If the only game I like is the original plants vs. zombies, no console has games, no worthwhile games etc. So when people say PS4 has no games they are flat out wrong, it doesn't matter what they mean because as long as one person likes the game that they don't consider worth while then its a false claim. Period, end of story.

As long as each of those 1million games sold at least one copy, then its worthwhile for somebody. So it means they are 1million good games. Its just that simple.

Your preferences and what you consider good are completely irrelevant.

Meh your response has no substance.

Atleast i debated you on the points you raised.

Its funny you bring up our old argument where i annihilated you, since you once asked me not to bring it up previously. I havent since. I thought we were over that

But here you are once again proving everything i said in that thread A YEAR AGO how right i was. This is why i simply do not even bother replying to you. Should have stuck to it.

I think they're getting at more than that Jay, it's who decides whether the game is good or not? like what Dr.Henry_Killinger said; games are games, personal opinion is irrelevant, you can throw reviews and articles at someone else until you blue in the face but most likely it won't change their stance, as it stands now the PS4 has more games than the Xbox One, is that a bad thing? no. Does it mean the PS4 is now better than the Xbox One? No(though then again that's all on personal opinion.)

Having more games just means the the buyer/gamer/customer has more choice or at least a broader selection, whether they find the game enjoyable is soley dependent on their choice of game/genre.