I don't consider it a price drop unless the price is the lowest it's ever been. They basically up'd the storage and bundled a game with the basic. I guess you can count it if you want but I don't. Anyone who wanted a Wii U could've gotten one for $300 since launch. It hasn't been any lower. (Officially)

I have only seen ads for 2 games, Lego City over a year ago and 3D World during the Holiday and that's it. If that "isn't that bad" to you then that's fine. It's your opinion.

Gamers know about it sure but regular consumers wouldn't. I didn't mean it like that. I was saying that the average person going to a store or shopping online, knows ahead of time what they plan on buying. Unless they go the gaming section, they won't notice the Wii U exists to the point of looking into it. By this I mean, if someone goes to Walmart to get a plant and happens to walk by the gaming section on their way and see a Wii U sign, they likely won't stop to check it out. This goes for the PS4 or XBO too. Most people don't just check out random products for fun. They would have to hear about it beforehand from an ad, commercial, or word of mouth.

Maybe not on the exact level of Kart or Smash but something that can surely help, yes I do. The NFC game could attract children and Miyamoto also is working on a new game. Plus, Animal Crossing is also pretty big now. Then you have the possibility of a remake. ZTWWHD, while not selling significant systems did help during last Holiday. A remake of Super Mario 64 or something could definily attract decent attention.

Well the question is whether we think Nintendo has anything else right? Well...obviously they've contacted tecmo to make a reskined Zelda/Dynasty Warriors  game for a reason. When they are in a tight space they get desperate and try to get out of it. I am giving them until 2015 to get out of it. I've been around long enough to realize when Nintendo is in a funk.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the price drop, IMHO its not THAT expensive especially compared to the other two so I still say the price is not a major issue. As for the ads, ive personally seen more than what you say you've seen so thats why i say it isnt bad. It aint PS4 or Xone good.

THats fair, but my point was, they know it EXISTS doesnt matter what they go in the store to get if they see it, they know its a thing. No whether they care enough to go over and check it out or follow up is another thing entirely.  After a year and a half, im calling that they'll be just under GC or just over LT sales 

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree. 

I expect the Wii U to tap out at around 30 Million (N64 #'s) unless Nintendo replaces it before the normal 5 to 6 year console lifespan. 

bolded: the answer is yes, like it's always been.

bolded 2: the reason is easy money, getting an exclusive by just lending the zelda universe.

and if zelda could have been shown last year, it can be released this year.