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superchunk on 15 April 2014

Only thing that will make me go back to insta-buy for this game is:

A) $40 or less launch price
B) Includes special DLC that others had to buy



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Hedra42 on 16 April 2014
NintendoPie said:
Zero999 said:

bold: was an exclusive.

and they're getting nowhere because they want to, delaying the finished rayman for 7 months was just the start. if their products didn't sell enough, it's their fault for not convincing the consumers.

The Wii U is toxic for anything. Some of what Ubisoft has done doesn't help their case any, however it's not just their fault.

This is very sad, and unfortunately very true, on all points.



Metallox on 16 April 2014

If the game costs 60 dollars, but comes with additional content (and by additional I say a lot of new content) or at the very least it has all the DLC, then it's going to be "ok". Otherwise, this will be the worst thing that Ubisoft could have done in a while, better cancel this version.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Hedra42 on 16 April 2014
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:

Yes ZombieU failed, according to Ubisoft id didn't even come close to being profitable. They probably delayed Rayman legends because of ZombiU being a failure. That is a failure in every meaning of the word. As for your second point, no it wouldn't make business sense to delay any other version. I'm not sure why you don't understand this. 3rd parties games don't sell well on WiiU. 

bolded: Of course it wouldn't, just like it doesn't make business sense to delay the wii u version.

bolded 2: Don't use these pre made sentences, ok? With enough cherrypick, we can say that third party games don't sell on any console.

Unfortunately it did make business sense to delay the Wii U version; in this case it's balancing delivering quality against financial risk, and here's why.

There were (and still are) huge expectations for Watchdogs; it had a high profile among all the hype building up for the console launches, and so they couldn't afford to deliver a half-baked game in November 2013.

We have already seen Ubisoft take a huge risk by delaying all versions for six months, thereby missing the launch of the X1 and PS4, in favour of delivering that quality. The delay had a huge negative impact on them at the time. It wiped 26% off their share price, and they had to adjust their forecast from an operating profit into a loss. It's not realistic to think they could announce another delay across the board and expect their investors to stay happy.

A quick exercise taken Here using VGChartz install base and pre-order figures gave a rough estimate showing that only 4% of Watchdogs' potential audience would be Wii U owners.

Taking into account the install base and the fact that ZombiU and other Wii U releases have not been profitable, if Ubisoft had been faced with the decision of choosing one platform to delay so that they could meet their deadline and avoid risking another hit to share prices and profits, delaying the Wii U version seems to be the better decision businesswise.

Indeed, in February 2014, CEO Yves Guillemot said: “We made the difficult decision to further delay the release of Watch Dogs on Wii U to focus the team’s resources where they could have the broadest possible benefit for both our customers and Ubisoft”



Zero999 on 16 April 2014
Hedra42 said:

Unfortunately it did make business sense to delay the Wii U version; in this case it's balancing delivering quality against financial risk, and here's why.

There were (and still are) huge expectations for Watchdogs; it had a high profile among all the hype building up for the console launches, and so they couldn't afford to deliver a half-baked game in November 2013.

We have already seen Ubisoft take a huge risk by delaying all versions for six months, thereby missing the launch of the X1 and PS4, in favour of delivering that quality. The delay had a huge negative impact on them at the time. It wiped 26% off their share price, and they had to adjust their forecast from an operating profit into a loss. It's not realistic to think they could announce another delay across the board and expect their investors to stay happy.

A quick exercise taken Here using VGChartz install base and pre-order figures gave a rough estimate showing that only 4% of Watchdogs' potential audience would be Wii U owners.

Taking into account the install base and the fact that ZombiU and other Wii U releases have not been profitable, if Ubisoft had been faced with the decision of choosing one platform to delay so that they could meet their deadline and avoid risking another hit to share prices and profits, delaying the Wii U version seems to be the better decision businesswise.

Indeed, in February 2014, CEO Yves Guillemot said: “We made the difficult decision to further delay the release of Watch Dogs on Wii U to focus the team’s resources where they could have the broadest possible benefit for both our customers and Ubisoft”

it doesn't make business sense. don't bother.



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Zero999 on 16 April 2014
DialgaMarine said:
flagstaad said:
DialgaMarine said:

 They can always just move to a next gen console, and play a much better quality version of the game. Just a suggestion.

I find this kind suggestion a little insulting, or at least insensible and lacking of empathy. Gaming is expensive outside of US, a PS4 costs  660 U$ in my country, and the Xbox One does not even launch till september and will retail for around 750 U$, and the average salary is around 600 U$ a month.

Some people chose a Wii U not only because they like/love Nintendo games but also because of costs reasons, suggesting a person who made an effort to pay the 375 U$ entry price of the console, to "go buy another one" is tacky. Just put yourself on the shoes of others and you will see that getting the game even if it is a little late is a better option than not having the game at all.

Ok. Let's be realistic for 5 seconds. If money is truly that much of an issue for the average working person in your country, then they might be better off finding a different entertainment medium all together. No video game console is worth even half a month's pay, especially if one has other bills to pay. I know that sounds a bit harsh, but there are ore important things for someone to worry about. If you can afford it and still live comfortably, fine and dandy, but don't live beyond your boundaries. You might as well be throwing money away at that point.

 On a side note, even if it is more expensive, PS4 would be a much better investment because you would be getting much more definitive versions with a more complete experience. Watch Dogs is only the beginning. Multiplats, as time goes on, will become far superior on PS4, while WiiU will always be stuck getting a version that either matches last gen or maybe slightly better. Depends on the developer.

it's not you who decides if it's a better investment for other people. as for the rest, it wasnt true before and won't be true in the future unless you want to count ps4 on the same boat of slightly better than ps360 versions.



fedfed on 16 April 2014

Nintendo should refuse to have the game released then....



Switch!!!

Yeezus09 on 16 April 2014

All the third party games look the same no big improvement and they're wont be for while



Hedra42 on 16 April 2014
Zero999 said:
Hedra42 said:

Unfortunately it did make business sense to delay the Wii U version; in this case it's balancing delivering quality against financial risk, and here's why.

There were (and still are) huge expectations for Watchdogs; it had a high profile among all the hype building up for the console launches, and so they couldn't afford to deliver a half-baked game in November 2013.

We have already seen Ubisoft take a huge risk by delaying all versions for six months, thereby missing the launch of the X1 and PS4, in favour of delivering that quality. The delay had a huge negative impact on them at the time. It wiped 26% off their share price, and they had to adjust their forecast from an operating profit into a loss. It's not realistic to think they could announce another delay across the board and expect their investors to stay happy.

A quick exercise taken Here using VGChartz install base and pre-order figures gave a rough estimate showing that only 4% of Watchdogs' potential audience would be Wii U owners.

Taking into account the install base and the fact that ZombiU and other Wii U releases have not been profitable, if Ubisoft had been faced with the decision of choosing one platform to delay so that they could meet their deadline and avoid risking another hit to share prices and profits, delaying the Wii U version seems to be the better decision businesswise.

Indeed, in February 2014, CEO Yves Guillemot said: “We made the difficult decision to further delay the release of Watch Dogs on Wii U to focus the team’s resources where they could have the broadest possible benefit for both our customers and Ubisoft”

it doesn't make business sense. don't bother.

Explain why.



Zero999 on 16 April 2014
Hedra42 said:
Zero999 said:

it doesn't make business sense. don't bother.

Explain why.

they aren't getting more money from the other versions but they are getting far less from the wii u version, wich was gonna sell very well. plus, it stains their name.