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Zero999 on 02 April 2014
naruball said:
justiceiro said:


You should have a look at pezus signature.

But i agree that this is hiperbole, but not so much. Will find a baseline, but i don't believe will be above 20K for some time. About FFXIV you mentioned earlier, remenber, this is not the first time a a next-gen system recieve a port of a Square Enix well done MMO that already launched months earlier in the last generation machine. And DQ is bigger than FF in japan.

10m wiiu consoles sold in 2013 and " going south indefinetely" not so much? I don't know what Pezus has predicted but I doubt that it's psvita doing 20m this year and 3ds continue "going south indefinetely". There are predictions and there are things that are completely out of reality. And after someone's 11th prediction goes horribly wrong, he simply has no credibility to tell other people that they're wrong.

if you don't have a counter argument, you shouldn't resort to logicless stuff like this.



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noname2200 on 02 April 2014
outlawauron said:

DQ is bigger than FF in Japan, but FF MMOs have a much more solid following than DQ MMOs. FF11 was able to keep a fanbase for years, and FF14 is extremely successful.

Let's be fair though, the DQ MMO came out on the Wii at the end of its life, and then the Wii U. I'm not saying FF MMOs wouldn't still be stronger, but to date it hasn't exactly been a fair fight!



AshKetchum1992 on 02 April 2014

The PS4 will struggle until FFXV is released and who knows when that will happen... :/



Max King of the Wild on 02 April 2014
Zero999 said:

If ps4 keeps this pace, it will be tracking bellow ps3 soon enough. also , how do you expect it to ever close the gap with no relevant release till 2015 and with wii u having mk 8, smash, zelda, X, hyrule warriors, smt x fe, bayonetta 2...?


You is used the same logic to support 10m by last years end for Wii U... then lowered it to 8. Then lowered it to 6... "wii u will take off with WWHD then mario the DKC." Besides, wii had majority of those games as well and Wii U is traking behind it by a large margin. Guess what, ps4 will get MGSV, RE7, FF15, KH3 and other games the ps3 got. However, unlike the Wii U, ps4 is tracking way ahead of Ps3 even though ps3 launched in holiday period. 

Guess what the ps3 vs Wii gap will settle at in Japan... about 2m. Considering the Wii U being generally unwanted and the ps4 outpacing the ps3 then a 2m swing is easily accomplishable. 

Heres a hint for your first question, if Ps3 kept its pace then it would have never crossed 5m



Soundwave on 02 April 2014

Console wars in Japan ... did someone say cripple fight?

LOL, Japan is becoming no.1 a smartphone gaming country and no.2 handheld oriented.

Consoles are a niche no.3, no one gives a crap about them.



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Hynad on 02 April 2014
Zero999 said:
naruball said:
justiceiro said:


You should have a look at pezus signature.

But i agree that this is hiperbole, but not so much. Will find a baseline, but i don't believe will be above 20K for some time. About FFXIV you mentioned earlier, remenber, this is not the first time a a next-gen system recieve a port of a Square Enix well done MMO that already launched months earlier in the last generation machine. And DQ is bigger than FF in japan.

10m wiiu consoles sold in 2013 and " going south indefinetely" not so much? I don't know what Pezus has predicted but I doubt that it's psvita doing 20m this year and 3ds continue "going south indefinetely". There are predictions and there are things that are completely out of reality. And after someone's 11th prediction goes horribly wrong, he simply has no credibility to tell other people that they're wrong.

if you don't have a counter argument, you shouldn't resort to logicless stuff like this.


Says the guy who goes around telling people "you're wrong" without ever elaborating. ¬_¬



AshKetchum1992 on 02 April 2014

The best that could happen to the PS4 is if its numbers sit around 20k.



Faust on 02 April 2014

zero's predictions are the best =3



outlawauron on 02 April 2014
noname2200 said:
outlawauron said:

DQ is bigger than FF in Japan, but FF MMOs have a much more solid following than DQ MMOs. FF11 was able to keep a fanbase for years, and FF14 is extremely successful.

Let's be fair though, the DQ MMO came out on the Wii at the end of its life, and then the Wii U. I'm not saying FF MMOs wouldn't still be stronger, but to date it hasn't exactly been a fair fight!

I don't disagree. There plenty of reasons why DQX did as it did. 

Did you and spurge read what I was responding to? He was using DQX to justify his point of view that FF14 isn't going to do well on PS4. I just said the FF MMOs have a stronger following. That's all.

Unlike DQX, FF14 will have a free upgrade from old console to new console. So, I imagine physical sales will be pretty low.



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Max King of the Wild on 02 April 2014
AshKetchum1992 said:
The best that could happen to the PS4 is if its numbers sit around 20k.


Ps3 was able to accomplish that. Ps4 can (and will in my opinion) easily improve upon ps3s figures. So how is that the best that could happen to the ps4? 

Zero999: Wii U will be more than 4m behind the Wii at similar period when mk8 launches. Ps4 will be about the same as the ps3 without the help of the holiday period. It needs about 800k in the next 11months to stay pace. That averages to about 15k weekly.