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MarcellusMighty on 09 March 2014

The big deal here is that Wii U uses PowerPC and the others use x86, which is far more inefficient per core. It's hilariously stupid. It takes much more effort to optimize for an x86 system than a PowerPC system, but because 2 of the 3 consoles use it, and they use those as lead consoles, of course they wouldn't be able to run the same graphics on PowerPC. If you code specifically for that PPC platform, you'll get a huge bang for your buck compared to the others. You can do more with less power, in essence. What happens with something like Watch Dogs is that you require SO much more power to optimize it correctly in x86 that if you try and port it over to Wii U, you find your assets aren't running nearly as well.

Like always, it's the question of effort, not power alone. Watch Dogs could easily look 3/4 as good as the Xbone and PS4 counterparts, but nobody wants to put that effort in now that they've coded for supermachines. It pisses me off, and it's why I refuse to buy the other consoles, because we're supposed to be moving forward, not backward with console technology.



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PigPen on 09 March 2014
oniyide said:
PigPen said:
oniyide said:
PigPen said:

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol

so say that EA and Ubi didnt work on WIi U is showing your bias. YOu are simply choosing who you want to believe and of course you want to believe the ones who dont bad mouth the poor Wii U. That is your choice of course but then you really arent any better than anyone who is anti Wii U. Retro arent to bad mouth there bosses so that is a terrible example


That's funny cause you are showing your bias.  Didn't you choose who you want to believe (I read your early post). That's a no brainer to believe devs that actually worked on the Nintendo console then devs that didn't.   Like, how can they know the power of the Wii U.  We already had devs proven wrong on the Wii U CPU.


You dont know what i choose to believe. WII u is more powerful than PS360 but not by much and far behind PS4 and Xone. Devs FROM EA and UBi have said so. Retro? Shinen? Have those guys worked on any other systems but Ninty ones? SO you choose to believe devs who are all intents and purposes have a one sided view anyway. Good job. Have any devs you choose to believe proven that Wii U being closer to PS360 than PS4/Xone is WRONG? Id like a link


I do know who you choose to believe, anybody can read you like a book.  As a Wii U owner I qualify to say this, it's above the X360/PS3.



zelda09 on 09 March 2014

All third party games look the same next and last gen watch dogs won't be any different



Soundwave on 09 March 2014
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:
Nintendo fans who are seriously still in denial about this need to get over it already.

A 33 watt machine is not going to output graphics similar to PS4/X1 unless its running on fairy dust and magic.

Nintendo does not want to make that type of machine, that's all there is to it.

wii u is not a 33 wat machine, not that it changes anything from this (now old) excuse of watt consume. Wii U also showed that it can hold it's own with stuff like X, mario kart 8, bayonetta 2...


The Wii U isn't as powerful as the X1 or PS4. Not even close. Its electrical consumption is a fraction of the X1 or PS4, which is simply a fact. Sure it can generate some decent graphics. So can the PS3 and X360 ... The Last of Us still looks very nice today. 

Nintendo has not designed a console to be competetive graphically with other consoles since the GameCube. That's just their philosophy with the Wii brand ... small console size, low electrical consumption, something a tad more powerful than the previous generation. These are design choices not coincidences. 

Mario Kart 8 isn't the mind blower that some people make it out to be either ...  I played it at E3, honestly I felt in motion Mario 3D World is the better looking game though. There's no anti-aliasing going on in MK8 at all. Bayonetta 2 and Mario 3D World were the best looking games at their booth, though MK8 was nice. 



oniyide on 09 March 2014
PigPen said:
oniyide said:
PigPen said:
oniyide said:
PigPen said:

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol

so say that EA and Ubi didnt work on WIi U is showing your bias. YOu are simply choosing who you want to believe and of course you want to believe the ones who dont bad mouth the poor Wii U. That is your choice of course but then you really arent any better than anyone who is anti Wii U. Retro arent to bad mouth there bosses so that is a terrible example


That's funny cause you are showing your bias.  Didn't you choose who you want to believe (I read your early post). That's a no brainer to believe devs that actually worked on the Nintendo console then devs that didn't.   Like, how can they know the power of the Wii U.  We already had devs proven wrong on the Wii U CPU.


You dont know what i choose to believe. WII u is more powerful than PS360 but not by much and far behind PS4 and Xone. Devs FROM EA and UBi have said so. Retro? Shinen? Have those guys worked on any other systems but Ninty ones? SO you choose to believe devs who are all intents and purposes have a one sided view anyway. Good job. Have any devs you choose to believe proven that Wii U being closer to PS360 than PS4/Xone is WRONG? Id like a link


I do know who you choose to believe, anybody can read you like a book.  As a Wii U owner I qualify to say this, it's above the X360/PS3.


try again. did i say it wasnt? did you even read? I said it was above, but not close to PS4 or the ONe. Did any of the devs YOU chose to believe say otherwise? Lets stick to the question.



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Trunkin on 10 March 2014
Ryudo said:
random15 said:
I remember a thread where one dude was saying wii u could run FFXV no problem.


Eh dunno about that however Nomura did say anything that can run DirectX11 he said would have the game. An indie developer found that WiiU could indeed run DirectX11 elements so it could maybe run the game. Like PS4 Wii U uses OpenGL.  Wii U in terms of power is more like the PS2 of this genration and PS4/XBO are GCN/XB.

FFXV PC CONFIRMED!!!!!!!



binary solo on 10 March 2014

But the WiiU EDRAM...



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curl-6 on 10 March 2014
binary solo said:
But the WiiU EDRAM...

Whoever said Wii U's eDRAM made it closer to PS4/Xbone than PS3/360 in power? Sure you're not mounting a strawman?



PigPen on 10 March 2014

And this means no sale.



Nintentacle on 10 March 2014

We already knew that.