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curl-6 on 09 March 2014
Mr Khan said:
curl-6 said:

I'm unconvinced; this "in between" line smells like placation to me; I recall them saying the same about AC4. As my sig says, I bet they just toss PS3/360 assets onto Wii U and optimize it just enough to make it (semi) playable, just like AC4, Splinter Cell, etc.

It's certainly different from the old rumor that the game was being made with 4-One assets and ported down primarily.

Being a separate development gives me a bit of hope though.

Whatever hope I had for Wii U multiplats from Ubisoft went bye bye after Splinter Cell and AC4.

I don't trust them to put in any more effort this time around. A tiger doesn't change its stripes. I wish I was wrong, but I have a very strong feeling about this, enough that I made a bet on it.



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jonathanalis on 09 March 2014

i would like to see a metric that measure the visual aproperly.



oniyide on 09 March 2014
the_dengle said:
oniyide said:
the_dengle said:
People will compare this game on PS4 to the same game on Wii U and conclude that the Wii U is significantly weaker.

I will compare this game on PS4 to Metal Gear Solid V on PS3 and laugh.

that makes no sense and you'll look crazy but hey its a democracy

We'll allow me to clarify.

It seems people take the Wii U version of Watch_Dogs being on par with the PS3 version as evidence of the weaknesses of the Wii U. I take it as evidence of the weaknesses of the title's developers or development environment.

When I see how good Ground Zeroes looks on PS3, I think the debates about PS4 and XBO games are hilarious. All that extra power and the devs can't take advantage of it at all.


fair enough. I take it as evidence of WIi U being closer to PS360 that PS4 or Xone cause you know many a dev has said so



PigPen on 09 March 2014

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol



curl-6 on 09 March 2014

oniyide said:

I take it as evidence of WIi U being closer to PS360 that PS4 or Xone cause you know many a dev has said so

In terms of power, I don't think anybody honestly thinks otherwise at this point.



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oniyide on 09 March 2014
PigPen said:

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol

so say that EA and Ubi didnt work on WIi U is showing your bias. YOu are simply choosing who you want to believe and of course you want to believe the ones who dont bad mouth the poor Wii U. That is your choice of course but then you really arent any better than anyone who is anti Wii U. Retro arent to bad mouth there bosses so that is a terrible example



BloodyRain on 09 March 2014

Well, isn't this kind of stating the obvious. The wii u is closer to last gen then current.The ps4/xbone is alot more powerful.



PigPen on 09 March 2014
oniyide said:
PigPen said:

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol

so say that EA and Ubi didnt work on WIi U is showing your bias. YOu are simply choosing who you want to believe and of course you want to believe the ones who dont bad mouth the poor Wii U. That is your choice of course but then you really arent any better than anyone who is anti Wii U. Retro arent to bad mouth there bosses so that is a terrible example


That's funny cause you are showing your bias.  Didn't you choose who you want to believe (I read your early post). That's a no brainer to believe devs that actually worked on the Nintendo console then devs that didn't.   Like, how can they know the power of the Wii U.  We already had devs proven wrong on the Wii U CPU.



Ryudo on 09 March 2014
random15 said:
I remember a thread where one dude was saying wii u could run FFXV no problem.


Eh dunno about that however Nomura did say anything that can run DirectX11 he said would have the game. An indie developer found that WiiU could indeed run DirectX11 elements so it could maybe run the game. Like PS4 Wii U uses OpenGL.  Wii U in terms of power is more like the PS2 of this genration and PS4/XBO are GCN/XB.



oniyide on 09 March 2014
PigPen said:
oniyide said:
PigPen said:

It's funny how everyone is hardware illiterate and know the Wii U power. I believe the developers that actually worked with Nintendo's console. I don't want to hear from EA or Ubisoft. EA has come out openly blasting the Wii U, so why would I ever take their word for it from being blinded by hate. EA employees has said some ugly things about the Wii U. Looking back at Fifa and Mass Effect, they can't tell me nothing. Ubisoft is just a little better. The secret is Rayman: Legends was never going to be a Wii U exclusive regardless what Ubisoft said. Retro, Shin'en and Mad Studios have great things to say about the Wii U. To be blunt and honest, Nintendo land looks better then a lot of X360/PS3 games (lol). Then we see trailers of Bayonetta 2 like wtf. We seen what Ubisoft done with Splinter Cell: Blacklist with the limited. That alone made alarms go off. Developers knew back then before the Wii U released if they was going to back the console. Retro calls the Wii U a power house. All I know is they want to dump us down to the point we say ok and give over or money, or buy another console (And that's not going to happen). I going to buy Rayman: Legends and Splinter Cell: Blacklist. I waiting for that price to come down more before I leap. That's how you do developers when they look down on you, you look down on their games. Lol

so say that EA and Ubi didnt work on WIi U is showing your bias. YOu are simply choosing who you want to believe and of course you want to believe the ones who dont bad mouth the poor Wii U. That is your choice of course but then you really arent any better than anyone who is anti Wii U. Retro arent to bad mouth there bosses so that is a terrible example


That's funny cause you are showing your bias.  Didn't you choose who you want to believe (I read your early post). That's a no brainer to believe devs that actually worked on the Nintendo console then devs that didn't.   Like, how can they know the power of the Wii U.  We already had devs proven wrong on the Wii U CPU.


You dont know what i choose to believe. WII u is more powerful than PS360 but not by much and far behind PS4 and Xone. Devs FROM EA and UBi have said so. Retro? Shinen? Have those guys worked on any other systems but Ninty ones? SO you choose to believe devs who are all intents and purposes have a one sided view anyway. Good job. Have any devs you choose to believe proven that Wii U being closer to PS360 than PS4/Xone is WRONG? Id like a link