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I think having them on the home screen may cause most of those ads to get over looked, they should show them when someone is paying much more attention to what is happening on screen like right in the middle of a boss battle.

Spontaneous ads in a boss battle ,don't we all want that, cause its not a big deal........right.



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cyberninja45 said:
I think having them on the home screen may cause most of those ads to get over looked, they should show them when someone is paying much more attention to what is happening on screen like right in the middle of a boss battle.

Spontaneous ads in a boss battle ,don't we all want that, cause its not a big deal........right.

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NightDragon83 said:
How is this any different from 2012 when it was all Obama all the time on my XBL dashboard in the run up to the presidential election?

Really?  All I mostly saw was food, soft drinks, cars, and Activision adds.  Activision add we by far the only ones that really annoyed with flashing and excessive animation.

I didn't see any political, but you could watch and vote on the debates as they happened.



 

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binary solo said:
Soundwave said:

Lets just keep political ads out period. Sigh, in some ways the days of the ol' Super NES/Genesis were a lot better.

I do respect the work MS has done as a *company* and Bill Gates in particular through philanthrophy, but the game division? Not so much. 

Don't kid yourself. If MS as a company and the Gates foundation were to spend $4 billion combined per year on various philanthropic ventures that would represent only 30% of New Zealand's Public Health budget, and if you consider all forms of social spending it's probably less than 10%. And this is for a country with just 4 million people.

The Gates foundation has total freedom as it is a NPO. But the laws and expectations around spending by a public corporation requires philanthropy carried out by MS to show some sort of return for shareholders. So it's much more constrained and ultimately must contribute to the company's bottom line, and as such would be put under the marketing / advertising / PR, i.e. the primary motivation is self promotion. Problem with that is if/when a particular initiative no longer serves the self promotion purpose it gets cut. The motivation for philanthropy needs to be outward looking and focussed on the people who are the recipients of the benfits not the how the benefactors will benefit.

US govt non-military foreign aid is about $31 billion per year, and EU's is $72 billion. Social spending by governments globally makes that $4 billion chump change, and effectively just feel good and PR spending. That $4 billion is put to good use, most definitely, and with fewer political strings attached (like conservatives not wanting US aid money spend on sexual and reproductive health) it can be more effectively spent. But it's still a tiny amout of money and it would be useless if not combined with both internal government social spending and foreign aid.

As to the topic, advertising in general for non-console related stuff is shitty. When I spend as much as I do I expect to not be exposed to overt advertising for fast food, consumer goods or political campaigns.

First Bill Gates has donated over $28 Billion personally.  Plus help promote the 'giving pledge' which has inspired others.  

Second, are you saying $4 Billion is worthless?  Tell that to the people that aren't getting Polio or are getting AIDS treatments, Neglected Tropical Diseases, TB research or the many other things the foundation does.

The foundation is so big that other things follow it.  It's not just the money it spends, which is great, but also the awareness and focus it brings to other causes.

Plus Microsoft employees personally give a buckets and buckets of money to charity.  Nintendo also financed a hospital - which isn't nothing.

I'm with you on the advertising, I like how Kindle does it - cheap version with add, or more expensive version with no ads.



 

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Landguy said:

Why are there adverts on cable or satellite tv?  You aren't paying for advert free service, you are paying for access to the service.

I don't pay for a TV channel, adverts do. A TV channel is not funded by my subscription to Virgin and I don't expect that to be advert free. I pay Virgin for my internet and access to TV features such as Tivo, on demand and the capability to watch TV in HD, as well as the infastructure to maintain this. I didn't pay for the Tivo box though. Virgin's service would be equivilent to MS giving you an Xbox for nothing and you paying a certain amount a month to play online and offline as much as you like as long as you keep paying their subscription.

Modern media is funded by 3 main sources, one off payment (buying the product), subscription or adverts. I would expect 1 most the time, 2 of these at max, MS is using all 3 on Xbox apparently.... but I guess the have to because they can't afford it.



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Enspire said:
OdinHades said:
I don't pay for TV channels. That aside, gaming should never get political in any way. Ever.


Dude the ad remains an ad. Gaming is not getting political, youre seeing ads on a console, that's it. If you don't see the ad-that-shall-not-be-seen you'll see it on internet or on tv instead. This isn't even a big deal you people are so over-exagerating this.


Nip in the bud.



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