They were Ukranian Cossacks....

It was an independent Ukranian state, that was comprised mostly of the Ukraine.  That makes it a Ukranian state.

The Leakers are just Anoynymous Ukraine.  So just regular internet people really.  So yeah.  It was a dumb mistake.  It's not an unheard of thing, the Ukrainian people who linked it probably just didn't know anything about Lithuinian email addresses except what the popular one was, because they also tried, but failed to make some inroads in the Ukraine.

It wasn't some diliberate russian propaganda move.  Just someone from the intenret who favored one side making up a fake email.   

You really can't see just how  huge a gaping problem that internet it?

Maybe they can leak some conversations next betweek Klitchko and Obama, from his BHObama@Gmail.com email address.

As for the Orange revolution... the results of the second election showed the protestors were fully in the right.  So I'm not quite sure what the big complaint is there.

And no.  Russia really doesn't have anywhere else to put the black sea fleet.  Why the hell else would they station it in a foreign nation? 

Eventually they'll have a base built in Novorossiysk... even then it's a much poorer location then Sevestapool.  

and again... that 42 year lease means, nothing.  Since it was made under the deposed president.

So let me rephrase.  Crimea is far more important to Russia then the rest of the Ukraine.  They need it.

...and no.  Russia has pretty much always been the same to the Ukraine.

Terrible, and unwilling to let it actually stretch it's own wings...pretty much threatening it in various ways anyway it's tried to establish some independence.

Yeah, because it's really hard to google things, right? Also, government officials may never have other email addresses, right? Especially a country like Lithuania, with a lot of enemies wanting to get their greedy claws on their secrets. Hey, I'm not conclusively stating that the leaks were legit; however, the reason you give to refute them is horrible.

About Orange Revolution: the point is not that it may have been warranted (in addition, it being warranted is debatable). The point is that US was involved in the domestic issues of Ukraine. So claims of current involvement are not as outrageous as you try to make them out to be.

Why is the Black Sea Fleet stationed in Chrimea? Because that's where it's been historically, since 18th or 19th centry. They had the infrastructure there, and Russia did not have the funds to relocate after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. A naval base is not something you can load on a truck and move to a different location. Is that not obvious?

And Russia has been terrible to Ukraine? Really?¹

And check that out: EU approved a $15B loan to Ukraine now. There goes your justification of previous EU offers. This says two things: EU had the money to cough up and that EU is more willing to help out the current renegade government, that was able to come to power thanks to street thugs who hired snipers and blamed the murders on the democratically elected officials.²

He wants a... Soviet Reunion?

I would say that any of the countries in UN's security council are super powers since they can basically end any voting in UN only with its vote.

1-I guess the asinine natural gas price packaged for them by Gazprom is a token of being good "tovarishch".

2- How can you prove that?

1 - In December, Russia approved a $15B loan to Ukraine. In addition, gas prices were slashed to levels far below the prices charged to rest of Europe. Also, Ukraine gets a cut from all energy transit through their country.

2 - There was a leak of a phone conversation between Estonian foreign minister and some British lady. The leak has been verified by the Estonian guy. In the conversation, they talk about how a doctor (Olga) told the Estonian foreign minister that the same snipers were killing police and protesters; moreover, the new government wants to sweep the killings under a rug, not wanting to investigate. The doctor believes strongly that the snipers were not Yanukovich's.

Goatseye said:

Whoever those snipers were, they are as coward as who sent them. And Yanukovich is capable of anything how can people defend him?

You have proof of that?

Sharu said:No. I have some pieces of info pointing on it, but no proof.

By the way, do you have any proof that Yanukovich ordered snipers to shoot people?