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dane007 said:
@Alt in nz this game cost 80 bucks for a story campaign thats worth 1 hr and 30 missions. Its funny ho w COD games or games that are 6 hours long get flaked for being short,, yet MGS ground zero with 1 hr and 30mins story and the rest of teh game doing collectibles is justified lol. By buying a game where kojima rips you off ,, you are allowing him keep doing this more often. Why couldn't he give it to you guys as a downloadable code by buying castlevania lords of shadows 2. That would help their game sell more copies. @dr henry there was one guy who went through the entire game twice,, did side ops mission and that took him 4 hours plus. the rest that he didn't do is get the collectibles. The game should not be sold at that price if campaign is that short. it should be max 10 bucks or as a free downloadable code like MGS2 was back in the ps2 era. Kojim is getting greedy by milking his fans.


Lol $80? It cost $30 on PS4 & $20 on PS3. Call of Duty gets flak for having short campaigns wih little substance filled with A.I enemies who come in relentless waves. I have beaten each COD campaign and I enjoyed in light of their length. It isn't the amount of time you put into the campaign, it is the content that you get from it. Sure both aspects would be great but not every game needs to be that way to be fun To each his own if you don't like the hype you don't like the hype whatevs.

in nz where i am based ,, its 80 bucks.  yea but how is a really short capaign with a few side ops and tons of collectibles good content? Well COD has multiplayer which is bigger content then the whole MGS GZ.  i don't like how he charging for something thats abysmal in terms of content where he could have given it as dowloadable code with purchase of lords of shadow 2 or a free psn downloadable title. the fact that people are going to buy it,, you are encouraging kojima o keep on doing it..  if he couldn't provide it as downloadable coder why not add ut as an extra content in phantom pain?



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Alt-Ctrl-Delete said:

The guy who got 20% completion rate completed the side ops.


so completing the game with side ops is 20%. so the entire 80% of the game which you pay 30 bucks for is to collect collectibles lol. you call that justifiable content and worth buying the game for?i rathere he made singler player capaign longer with sideops and make that 85% of the game for 30 bucks.. i am a mgs enthusiast having finished  all theur games but theres limit  you rip off your customers.  thats not how you treat your fans. i guess mgs fans are you new apple fans lol



dane007 said:
Alt-Ctrl-Delete said:
dane007 said:
@Alt in nz this game cost 80 bucks for a story campaign thats worth 1 hr and 30 missions. Its funny ho w COD games or games that are 6 hours long get flaked for being short,, yet MGS ground zero with 1 hr and 30mins story and the rest of teh game doing collectibles is justified lol. By buying a game where kojima rips you off ,, you are allowing him keep doing this more often. Why couldn't he give it to you guys as a downloadable code by buying castlevania lords of shadows 2. That would help their game sell more copies. @dr henry there was one guy who went through the entire game twice,, did side ops mission and that took him 4 hours plus. the rest that he didn't do is get the collectibles. The game should not be sold at that price if campaign is that short. it should be max 10 bucks or as a free downloadable code like MGS2 was back in the ps2 era. Kojim is getting greedy by milking his fans.


Lol $80? It cost $30 on PS4 & $20 on PS3. Call of Duty gets flak for having short campaigns wih little substance filled with A.I enemies who come in relentless waves. I have beaten each COD campaign and I enjoyed in light of their length. It isn't the amount of time you put into the campaign, it is the content that you get from it. Sure both aspects would be great but not every game needs to be that way to be fun To each his own if you don't like the hype you don't like the hype whatevs.

in nz where i am based ,, its 80 bucks.  yea but how is a really short capaign with a few side ops and tons of collectibles good content? Well COD has multiplayer which is bigger content then the whole MGS GZ.  i don't like how he charging for something thats abysmal in terms of content where he could have given it as dowloadable code with purchase of lords of shadow 2 or a free psn downloadable title. the fact that people are going to buy it,, you are encouraging kojima o keep on doing it..  if he couldn't provide it as downloadable coder why not add ut as an extra content in phantom pain?
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MGS fans asked for the game now, Phantom Pain won't release till Late 2015

By the time, Phantom Pain releases Ground Zeroes will probably cost next to nothing anyway. So you are basically paying for an early access demo of about 2+ years. If you are an MGS fan or are just intrested in Metal Gear, who this game was made for then it make sense. If not wait until the full game in late 2015. Its totally simple, by the time Phantom Pain comes out there will be at least 2 new CODs anyway so you're not making much of a point btw.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
dane007 said:
Alt-Ctrl-Delete said:
dane007 said:
@Alt in nz this game cost 80 bucks for a story campaign thats worth 1 hr and 30 missions. Its funny ho w COD games or games that are 6 hours long get flaked for being short,, yet MGS ground zero with 1 hr and 30mins story and the rest of teh game doing collectibles is justified lol. By buying a game where kojima rips you off ,, you are allowing him keep doing this more often. Why couldn't he give it to you guys as a downloadable code by buying castlevania lords of shadows 2. That would help their game sell more copies. @dr henry there was one guy who went through the entire game twice,, did side ops mission and that took him 4 hours plus. the rest that he didn't do is get the collectibles. The game should not be sold at that price if campaign is that short. it should be max 10 bucks or as a free downloadable code like MGS2 was back in the ps2 era. Kojim is getting greedy by milking his fans.


Lol $80? It cost $30 on PS4 & $20 on PS3. Call of Duty gets flak for having short campaigns wih little substance filled with A.I enemies who come in relentless waves. I have beaten each COD campaign and I enjoyed in light of their length. It isn't the amount of time you put into the campaign, it is the content that you get from it. Sure both aspects would be great but not every game needs to be that way to be fun To each his own if you don't like the hype you don't like the hype whatevs.

in nz where i am based ,, its 80 bucks.  yea but how is a really short capaign with a few side ops and tons of collectibles good content? Well COD has multiplayer which is bigger content then the whole MGS GZ.  i don't like how he charging for something thats abysmal in terms of content where he could have given it as dowloadable code with purchase of lords of shadow 2 or a free psn downloadable title. the fact that people are going to buy it,, you are encouraging kojima o keep on doing it..  if he couldn't provide it as downloadable coder why not add ut as an extra content in phantom pain?
,

MGS fans asked for the game now, Phantom Pain won't release till Late 2015

By the time, Phantom Pain releases Ground Zeroes will probably cost next to nothing anyway. So you are basically paying for an early access demo of about 2+ years. If you are an MGS fan or are just intrested in Metal Gear, who this game was made for then it make sense. If not wait until the full game in late 2015. Its totally simple, by the time Phantom Pain comes out there will be at least 2 new CODs anyway so you're not making much of a point btw.


Thats fine but couldn't he make a game with a longer single player campaign. I mean is 5 hour campaign too much to ask for considerign tts his loyal fans who are asking it right? Well if that was a case why make people pay for the game? Wouldn't given it as a free downloadable code attract more peopel for mgs? Especially those who are new to the genre? Why couldn't he do it teh same way as he did with MGS2 back in the ps2 era? The reason why i am saying this ,, is because its not 30US dollars around th e world. In nz where i reside ,, its 80 bucks which is alot of money just to play a game where majority of teh content is looking for collectibles with a single player capaign lasting 1 hr and 30 mins.  Isn't it something like 30 pounds in europe?? That o is expensive. I know in malaysia is at least 100 malaysian dollars hwich is alot as well. You can imagine what the price would be in Brazi?? To me what kojima is doing is a salp in teh face to his fanbase.  Thats not the way to say thanks to his loyal fans who having been playing his games sine the mgs on teh gameboy.  I was using COD since alot peopel do complain about the short content. I coudln't remember other games os similar nature. It seems that its ok for mg s game ot have short campaign but not other game can lol. Double standards really.



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look Dane, your points are valid but the thing is releasing ground zeroes with another konami game wouldn't make as much sense cause castlevania fans aren't necessarily MGS fans and it would require MGS fans to buy a game they might not want.

To be honest, it might have been Kojima's decision, and considering the fact that the fox engine is being used for the Phantom Pain as well, charging $30 dollars is probably just covering the cost of fox engine development, especially when its being rushed out like this. Either way, the game can't flop so it doesn't matter how much it sells



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

look Dane, your points are valid but the thing is releasing ground zeroes with another konami game wouldn't make as much sense cause castlevania fans aren't necessarily MGS fans and it would require MGS fans to buy a game they might not want.

To be honest, it might have been Kojima's decision, and considering the fact that the fox engine is being used for the Phantom Pain as well, charging $30 dollars is probably just covering the cost of fox engine development, especially when its being rushed out like this. Either way, the game can't flop so it doesn't matter how much it sells


I mentioned as a suggestion to help their own game to sell well as that would be an incentive to buy the game. which makes konami make a profit for their quarter. They don't have to do taht way .. They could have released it as psn downloadable code for free. Oh if sony wanted infamous to sell really well tehy could have offered it as a psn donloadable copy with infamous game. Imagien how many copies would have sold with that?  Even if eh didn't do  any of teh above,, he coudl have released it for 10 bucks. Well  he was charging more then 30 bucks originally ,, then dropped it to 30 bucks. If that ws true,, then he coudl have told his fans to wait till phantom pain came out. MGS fan wouldn't mind taht at all as mgs fans tend to love whatever ojima says as hes god to hem lol.  Well i hope ground zeroes flop for charging that much but sadly mgs fans are teh new iphone fans,, so it won't happen. I don't taht to be the norm for other games if developers sees teh success of mgs GZ.



dane007 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

look Dane, your points are valid but the thing is releasing ground zeroes with another konami game wouldn't make as much sense cause castlevania fans aren't necessarily MGS fans and it would require MGS fans to buy a game they might not want.

To be honest, it might have been Kojima's decision, and considering the fact that the fox engine is being used for the Phantom Pain as well, charging $30 dollars is probably just covering the cost of fox engine development, especially when its being rushed out like this. Either way, the game can't flop so it doesn't matter how much it sells


I mentioned as a suggestion to help their own game to sell well as that would be an incentive to buy the game. which makes konami make a profit for their quarter. They don't have to do taht way .. They could have released it as psn downloadable code for free. Oh if sony wanted infamous to sell really well tehy could have offered it as a psn donloadable copy with infamous game. Imagien how many copies would have sold with that?  Even if eh didn't do  any of teh above,, he coudl have released it for 10 bucks. Well  he was charging more then 30 bucks originally ,, then dropped it to 30 bucks. If that ws true,, then he coudl have told his fans to wait till phantom pain came out. MGS fan wouldn't mind taht at all as mgs fans tend to love whatever ojima says as hes god to hem lol.  Well i hope ground zeroes flop for charging that much but sadly mgs fans are teh new iphone fans,, so it won't happen. I don't taht to be the norm for other games if developers sees teh success of mgs GZ.

Well, it doesn't have Micro Transactions or DLC, and I honestly think Konami couldn't care less about making that much money off of it. Plus since, MGS:GZ is multiplatform, I would think that Microsoft should be the one trying to secure GZ as exclusive or at least pay Konami for it, especially when they have piss all for jRPGs for Xb1 right now



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Lol that stiill doesn't justify the pricing kojima / konami gave for the game. It might as well be a dlc for phantom pain as technically you paying dlc price for it. Well ps4 has no jrpgs right now to play. There are ones coming but they are few years away. If they couldn't care less of making much money out it ,, then why charge 30 bucks ,, why not free or 10 bucks. That doesn't sound logical,, its obvious they want to milk their fanbase for what its worth. It doesn't need to. They should get phantom exclusives as thats more effective., When xbox comes to japan it will have its fair share of jrpgs much like what xbox 360 had. Wasn't the creators of lost odyssey meant to announce an xbox one game for it?



dane007 said:
Alt-Ctrl-Delete said:
dane007 said:
@Alt in nz this game cost 80 bucks for a story campaign thats worth 1 hr and 30 missions. Its funny ho w COD games or games that are 6 hours long get flaked for being short,, yet MGS ground zero with 1 hr and 30mins story and the rest of teh game doing collectibles is justified lol. By buying a game where kojima rips you off ,, you are allowing him keep doing this more often. Why couldn't he give it to you guys as a downloadable code by buying castlevania lords of shadows 2. That would help their game sell more copies. @dr henry there was one guy who went through the entire game twice,, did side ops mission and that took him 4 hours plus. the rest that he didn't do is get the collectibles. The game should not be sold at that price if campaign is that short. it should be max 10 bucks or as a free downloadable code like MGS2 was back in the ps2 era. Kojim is getting greedy by milking his fans.


Lol $80? It cost $30 on PS4 & $20 on PS3. Call of Duty gets flak for having short campaigns wih little substance filled with A.I enemies who come in relentless waves. I have beaten each COD campaign and I enjoyed in light of their length. It isn't the amount of time you put into the campaign, it is the content that you get from it. Sure both aspects would be great but not every game needs to be that way to be fun To each his own if you don't like the hype you don't like the hype whatevs.

in nz where i am based ,, its 80 bucks.  yea but how is a really short capaign with a few side ops and tons of collectibles good content? Well COD has multiplayer which is bigger content then the whole MGS GZ.  i don't like how he charging for something thats abysmal in terms of content where he could have given it as dowloadable code with purchase of lords of shadow 2 or a free psn downloadable title. the fact that people are going to buy it,, you are encouraging kojima o keep on doing it..  if he couldn't provide it as downloadable coder why not add ut as an extra content in phantom pain?

Dane, NZgameshop.com dropped the price to $45nz (used to be $70) a couple days ago. Dunno about other retailers though.