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ImmortalHelixFossil said:
sundin13 said:

Step 1: Get Wii U hardware profitable (this means no price drop)
Step 2: Continue kicking ass with 3DS
Step 3a: Release great games for 3DS and Wii U
Step 3b:Purchase/create additional studios to fill software gaps
Step 4: release Companion Apps, Demos and VC on Smartphones for low prices to make some revenue as well as increasing brand awareness
Side note: Cross compatibility between phones/3DS/Wii U for VC games would be a good move

Nintendo's goal right now should be planning for the future, not trying to salvage the short term. Don't do anything that is a detriment to your brands or make people lose faith in your consoles. This generation, Nintendo needs to play positionally, that is why purchasing/creating addition studios is key despite being an expense short term. Of course Nintendo wants to make as much money as possible but they have enough in the bank that they shouldn't sacrifice their future for some short term gains

That is my business plan for Nintendo...not really sure why you wanted to know but since you asked ^.^

Oh, I am just curious what people should suggest that will help Nintendo. 

Step 3b:Purchase/create additional studios to fill software gaps: I am afraid, that one would be tough. They have to prove to their shareholders, that it wouldn't be risky to invest a lot of cash in studio's. Shareholders don't like to here the word "chance", they want to know for sure. They also hate long-term profit, and since they will have to start from 0, it will take years before the new IP will be ready. 

I am just worried even tho the 3DS is selling great. It is selling worse then the DS if I must believe VGchartz. 

"The 3DS has sold 42,127,535 units in the first 34 months, and the DS 51,762,329 units." From the article "3DS vs DS - VGChartz Gap Charts - December 2013 update."

So, the 3DS is selling great, but already way less then the DS. How long will Nintendo survive on the hardware and software of the 3DS? Sorry, for sounding pessimistic. I am just worried, that Nintendo won't survive the compentition with their current business model. :/

@3B: I don't think it really matters too much whether or not nintendo can convince shareholders. I also think that buying existing studios would be the best decision as it is a quicker turnaround than creating a new studio. Not buying Atlas was a HUGE missed opportunity for Nintendo...

Also, Nintendo doesn't need the 3DS to sell as well as the DS. The DS will always be a beast and one of the best selling consoles of all time. 3DS just needs to maintain its momentum and with its great software library hopefully they can keep it up!

I am curious to see if Nintendo decides to make a portable/home console hybrid next gen. It seems to be getting increasingly difficult (with increasing dev times and costs) for Nintendo to support two systems and condensing all third party support to one console would make things better on that front. I'm not sure if it would be a good move (or if it is technologically feasible) but it would be interesting and save me a few hundred dollars :P

EDIT: Cut down the quote pyramid a bit



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sundin13 said:

@3B: I don't think it really matters too much whether or not nintendo can convince shareholders. I also think that buying existing studios would be the best decision as it is a quicker turnaround than creating a new studio. Not buying Atlas was a HUGE missed opportunity for Nintendo...

Also, Nintendo doesn't need the 3DS to sell as well as the DS. The DS will always be a beast and one of the best selling consoles of all time. 3DS just needs to maintain its momentum and with its great software library hopefully they can keep it up!

I am curious to see if Nintendo decides to make a portable/home console hybrid next gen. It seems to be getting increasingly difficult (with increasing dev times and costs) for Nintendo to support two systems and condensing all third party support to one console would make things better on that front. I'm not sure if it would be a good move (or if it is technologically feasible) but it would be interesting and save me a few hundred dollars :P

EDIT: Cut down the quote pyramid a bit

No worries, I was already going to cut it down:)

 

3DS is selling as a beast, because they don't have any compentition on the portable console market. Okay, there is Playstation Vita, but let's be honest Sony doesn't have the quality IP's for the Vita. Don't take it wrong, they got great quality IP's for their console.  

All I know, is that right now Nintendo's future doesn't look really bright. There are a lot of chances and opportunity. If their next home/portable console sells also weak. Then there is a huge chance they have to go 3th party or find a realistic way to earn millions/billions. 



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IMO, these are two ideas Nintendo should do in this generation:
1. Keep their software exclusive to their hardware.

Nintendo can lose one generation like they did the with the N64 and GameCube because the GameBoy helped them. The 3DS isn't as helpful, but it still is. Wii U will be profitable at some point. Having an Apple like control of their software will increase the value of their software as along as the software is still high quality. And Apple is known for keeping their software exclusive to their system even when they faced very tough times before. People wanted them to release their OS to other platforms, but Apple didn't listen and they made other products with software exclusive to those like the iPod, and eventually, the Macbooks, iPhone and now iPad. Nintendo has a lot of money still, and they can try to be like Apple and make a more appealing console next generation. Heck, they are even making a Quality of Life machine to branch out their company. Maybe that will be their "iPod."

2. Get more studios: I don' care how.
Getting exclusive developers if affordable, forming new studios in the West, or even expanding their current ones. Maybe they are already doing the last point behind the scenes because of rising HD game development. And to be fair, I guess Nintendo DID try this earlier this gen when EA said they would give unprecedented support to Wii U. But now that we know Nintendo and third parties can't seem to get along for WHATEVER the reason (we all have our ideas, opinions, or facts we choose to believe) Nintendo should have bigger and more studios in case their relationship with third parties continue to be bad in the future.

One idea they should do next generation is help marketing third party games. I really believe this signifcantly encourages third parties to make games for Sony and Microsoft. Unfortunately, Sony and Microsoft are waaaay bigger than Nintendo, so it's sort of understandable why Nintendo would try not to get into a marketing war between those two. The other companies can pay more money to a third party company to get their version more or even all the attention (Call of Duty Xbox bundles). But we're seeing two generations in a row (including this one) that third parties are still happy to release games for Sony and Microsoft systems and I still think its because of marketing. Nintendo needs to strategically choose which third party game they wish to market or even "moneyhat" if given the opportunity next generation.

TL;DR: Nintendo should keep their software like Apple and make bigger studios or expand. Next generation, they should market their good third party games better like Microsoft or Sony if valuable.



HylianSwordsman said:


Alright fine, be nitpicky about the exact wording. I mostly just said heads will roll for humorous effect. But I would be a little peeved. I wouldn't overreact that much, but come on, if Nintendo says they're exclusive to Ambassadors, they should be just that. Not like I'm gonna start a petition. If you think it's not a big deal, then why are you making such a big deal out of my caring a bit about it? Do you feel the need to defend Nintendo from me? Over a nonexistent, hypothetical, hyperbolic threat? Who do you think you are that you have to tell me how to feel, my therapist? No, if Nintendo did this, I wouldn't cry out to the heavens "Why hath thou forsaken me Nintendo!" I'd just be peeved. Seriously, if you had a friend that did this, would you argue with him for hours why he shouldn't be peeved, and be that upset that he dare not agree with you that it's nothing to be peeved about? Would you forever see him differently as some pathetic whiner because he made a passing complaint? You're overreacting on the internet. I really had no idea that my passing remark about Nintendo's promise that I made simply to illustrate that they have their own reasons why they release the games they do when they do, would turn into a massive flame war like this. I am sorry I said anything. Jesus Christ. Let it go people.

You were playing devil's advocate. Nothing wrong with that. I knew it would never affect your purchases, and it shouldn't.

The point is, Nintendo for whatever reason, does not put out games that people want. It's been a problem for the past 2 generations. They are so focussed on making the next big thing that they forget entirely about all the potential revenue they could be earning. That's like Nintendo in a nutshell. They have this backwards approach to it, much like 80s and 90s era Disney.

I'm not even sure what strategy is behind it...what, do they think that if they put all their games out, prices will go down, and they'll make a short term profit and long term failure? Because it's not like that at all. That's crazy. It's crazy that instead of having games on there that people do want, they put out the ones people don't want. That is absolute nonsense.

PS: I'm not saying Nintendo only has bad games. They have a lot of great games. Unfortunately, they've made sure that before you have access to all the great ones, you have to sort through all the rubbish. It's like they know metroid 1 won't sell, but they'll put it on vc before fusion because, you know what, what choice do you have?