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AZWification on 26 February 2014

I am going to cut some of those legs if you don't mind......



                
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Dusk on 26 February 2014
Fusioncode said:
Dusk said:

I was being a smart ass. You still didn't prove any point actually. You are grouping 190 million consoles in comparison to one with 5.7ish. It's undeniable that it has sold better on the PS4 and X1 but you can't really compare it to the PS3 and 360 as a legit comparison. Hell, if you want to do that then the PS4 version spanked the PS3 version because it has roughly 5 and a half million consoles to 80 million+ and it only out sold it 3 to 1. 

Of course none of that really matters in the end. It's all about the money made from the game. So the real question is how much did it cost to port it over to each console and was the time and work worth it in profits. We really have no idea because those numbers are never released and it's all speculation. 

Ok? Go look at the sales for each individual version of AC4, the WiiU version falls short in comparison to every one of them. You can call it speculation all you want but if AC4 on WiiU performed to Ubisoft's expectations they wouldn't have delayed the WiiU version of Watch Dogs. 


What I mean is that you are taking results from one single game and taking that accross everything. It might happen, but it might not. 

Again, I did say that It's undeniable that it has sold better on the PS4 and X1



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Yakuzaice on 26 February 2014
Dusk said:

I hope not. I hope it sells much better, but it has already taken quite a delay. The pre-orders aren't that significant. But I was talking about the entire range stated. 

I myself was quite excited about Watchdogs and was planning on picking it up day one, but now there are better things on the horizon and the hype has mostly faded. I might still pick it up, but I can guarantee it won't be a day one purchase. On all the X1, PS4 and Wii U there are potentially better games coming that might over shadow it as well. Second Son, Titanfall, Mario Kart 8. 

While I don't think there is much reliability in VGC preorder numbers, the PS4 version has 205k in the US alone.  The XBO 159k.  Even if you meant double the top of the range he stated, it would be far too low for lifetime sales.



HylianSwordsman on 26 February 2014

Yeah! Go Wonderful 101! Even if it didn't make a lot of money, if it can at least sell enough copies that they think there's a big enough fanbase for it, it might get a sequel.



Fusioncode on 26 February 2014
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

it was at 6k the week that is still considered as 2013. it's getting a consistent 4k a week since then. there are also hardware spikes to consider, as well as holidays.

My point stands. AC4 will not stay at an average of 4k per week, games sell less over time. We've seen this happen with literally every video game in existence.

wii u hardware sales increasing will also increase the software.

But it's not increasing, at all. It should go even lower since there's an almost 3 month gap between Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. 



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Dusk on 26 February 2014
pezus said:
Dusk said:
pezus said:
Dusk said:
Seece said:
Not really. Games don't usually triple their first 2 months of sales, ACIV will top out at 200k. Did we ever get 101 shipments???

Ubi are making the right decision with Watchdogs. It's their next 8m+ selling franchise (that's what they're hoping for) they shouldn't be worrying about a sku that is gonna sell 50k - 200k.


Do you mean by releasing it later? That doesn't even make sense. Or is there a double standard for the X1 and PS4 with relation to this? They are probably going to sell similar numbers that you just posted. 

I'll agree that many don't triple their first 2 months, although, some have and do.

What double standard? The PS4X1 versions will easily multiply whatever the WiiU version would sell by a factor of at least 5, probably over 10. Them focusing on the versions that will bring them more money isn't a double standard. It's business. Just be happy you're actually getting the port, because financially it makes little sense.


Okay. We have one instance of that so far with one game. I'm not sure we can spread that as a definite accross the board. 

Are you being serious? 

All the major games that have released on all platforms. Like AC and CoD. Publishers also had a whole another year to judge WiiU version sales of multiplaform sales and they weren't any hotter.


I am actually. For the most part Wii U's sales have been lower, in some cases much lower. There is another part of the equation that helps it make more sense though. There are a lot more options for purchases on the Wii U at this point in comparison. That also make sense as to why the numbers for the X1 and PS4 have been quite good for the likes of COD and AC4 in comparison to their older counterparts. This trend might continue, or it might not. Only time will tell. If The Order 1886 gets released at the same time as Watchdogs which would you go for? Or how about that or Watchdogs as there is only supposed to be roughly a month between these releases? The same can be said on the Wii U with some of Nintendo's franchises. It might come out at the same time as Smash or X or Bayonetta 2. That's all. 



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Dusk on 26 February 2014
justiceiro said:
I agree on the part about showing legs, but not on the part about third party. Its incridible as mario manage to sell +1 mil after 5 week, with a slow start. And I'm ok if the kid friendly games sells well on the plattaform. I really doubt that anyone that buy nintendo products cares about the looks of the games.


Agreed. I think they care more about how the game plays. 



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Dusk on 26 February 2014
pezus said:
Dusk said:
pezus said:

Oh spare me your replies with nothing to back you up. I was being generous when I said 5. 10 is probably what we'll be looking at in most cases.

They're not hindering the WiiU version. They're focusing on the other versions, that means they're shifting resources to the versions that they will profit more from. Pure business. Ubisoft doesn't have unlimited staff, and they DO actually care about HOW MUCH they profit, not only IF they profit (however tiny that profit may be).

Agreed, but if that were only the case than they wouldn't be spending much time on the X1 or PS4 versions either. Any way you cut it, it is still a risk. 

Why? Like I said, the PS4X1 versions will sell a lot better. I know that, Ubisoft knows that, everyone knows that (except maybe you and zero? That seems implied, at least).

It's a risk because they are spending a lot of money developing for these two platforms. It's not a port like the Wii U version is, or if it is a port it's a high end port from PC and there is still lost of cost that goes into that. It's not easy to split processes to multiple cores. Lots of trial and error and a lot of extra coding that goes into that. With them making their own new engine I would be that they took the base engine and started from there on both PC and X1/PS4 platforms. 



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Dusk on 26 February 2014
Yakuzaice said:
Dusk said:

I hope not. I hope it sells much better, but it has already taken quite a delay. The pre-orders aren't that significant. But I was talking about the entire range stated. 

I myself was quite excited about Watchdogs and was planning on picking it up day one, but now there are better things on the horizon and the hype has mostly faded. I might still pick it up, but I can guarantee it won't be a day one purchase. On all the X1, PS4 and Wii U there are potentially better games coming that might over shadow it as well. Second Son, Titanfall, Mario Kart 8. 

While I don't think there is much reliability in VGC preorder numbers, the PS4 version has 205k in the US alone.  The XBO 159k.  Even if you meant double the top of the range he stated, it would be far too low for lifetime sales.

I agree. I honestly don't think it will make a profit on any of the new consoles, the bread and butter will come from the PS3 and the 360 sales. So my point is that if they are going to take a loss on each new console they might as well do it at the same time on each. They are setting the Wii U version up to fail no matter how you look at it. It is the least likely to succeed, sure, without doubt. There are still loads of people that are just refusing to purchase Ubisoft software because of the Rayman fiasco, but they aren't doing themselves any favors with this either. 



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Mummelmann on 26 February 2014
pezus said:
Dusk said:
pezus said:
I noticed now that the PS3 version of Rayman has overtaken the WiiU version, after a worse start.

I wouldn't call that "legs", in any of those cases. Especially AC, since it released very late in 2013. We're looking at maybe 2k sold per week in 2014 on average? Which will likely drop as the year goes on, but might rise again slightly with the holidays. That would be about 100k for each in 2014. Again, I wouldn't call that legs.


It only makes sense that it should outsell the Wii U. There are roughly 80 million people with PS3's out there as opposed to the 5 and a half million Wii U's. It damn well better out sell the Wii U. 

Agreed. Doesn't change what I said though.

Still, PS4X1 launch titles even outsold the WiiU multiplats by at least 5 in most cases. You were then looking at a userbase of 0 to a million vs. 5m


Not to mention the fact that the PS4 and Wii U are currently tied for million sellers, and all five of the Wii U's million sellers are 1st party titles (one PS4 million seller is Sony published) and the top ten best selling titles house 9 titles that are Nintendo developed or published, the odd man out is Ubisoft's ZombiU. Nintendo home consoles are highly inferior at selling 3rd party software, I just don't understand why anyone still bothers to even try to argue that any longer.

There really is no mystery surrounding why most developers don't prioritize Nintendo home consoles.