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Forums - Gaming - 720p vs 1080p, Does Resolution matter? - A Utilitarian Perspective

alrightiwill on 23 February 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
starworld said:


having graphics look much clearer adds to the gameplay experiance, if your used to console gaming your already used to 720p, trying playing the wii or to a lesser extent sub hd games like crysis and halo reach, they look like a jaggie mess, once you get used 1080p gaming going back to 720p will look blurry to you.

Refer to my sig learn how 1080p impacts the gameplay experience.

Even after playing vastly superior looking 8th gen games, I had no problem going back to 7th gen because there is more to a gameplay experience than graphics.


I don't think he means that better graphics make a game better than another game. I think he means that improved graphics of a specific game will make the game experience better. Such as playing the same title on last-gen and then playing it on next-gen or PC.

But if he did just mean that good graphics make a good game then, ugh...



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Mr Puggsly on 23 February 2014

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brendude13 on 23 February 2014
starcraft said:
FATALITY said:
yikes!

I don't understand - why can't the PS4 render clouds?

"Atmosphere simulation" which is exclusive to the PS4 version.



starcraft on 23 February 2014
brendude13 said:
starcraft said:
FATALITY said:
yikes!

I don't understand - why can't the PS4 render clouds?

"Atmosphere simulation" which is exclusive to the PS4 version.

Atmosphere simulation ---> Denying you clouds since 2014.



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Goatseye on 23 February 2014

State of Decay was one of the funnest games of 7th gen.
It has a terrible frame rate and resolution, but even though people knew about it, they jumped on it like ants on sugar.
1 million downloads in 2 months I believe... Arcade game.



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starcraft on 23 February 2014
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
starcraft said:
brendude13 said:
starcraft said:
FATALITY said:
yikes!

I don't understand - why can't the PS4 render clouds?

"Atmosphere simulation" which is exclusive to the PS4 version.

Atmosphere simulation ---> Denying you clouds since 2014.

If Atmosphere simulation becomes a regular exclusive for the PS4, the FFVII remake will have to be X1 exclusive.

 

^_^



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alrightiwill on 23 February 2014

Completely off-topic but as for atmospheric simulation, I always wanted FPS games online maps to have dynamic weather and time. It would add so many different varieties of the same maps adding extra gameplay value. Hopefully MGSV is the first of many games with that sort of idea :)



SvennoJ on 23 February 2014
alrightiwill said:
Completely off-topic but as for atmospheric simulation, I always wanted FPS games online maps to have dynamic weather and time. It would add so many different varieties of the same maps adding extra gameplay value. Hopefully MGSV is the first of many games with that sort of idea :)

Now that you mention it, it does seem a weird omission. Has there really not been an online fps yet with dynamic weather? I love the day/night/weather simulation in AC4.
Yes I remember one, Joint operations Typhoon rising had a day/night cycle, 150 player maps. That was some fun chaos.



exalia on 23 February 2014

Okay, firstable this picture has nothing to do here.

This is not because of the resolution if the right picture is better looking but because of effects add to the ps4 version (also resolution but close to not noticeable at this size).

Secondly, you can't compare two pictures in 720p and 1080p when they are so small and on their native resolution (or smaller) (so many peoples don't understand that...) like this :

alrightiwill said:

Well TBH 640x480 is not a bad size. It's just a 4:3 480p image, most of TV history is this format. Obviously since we have gone widescreen the image would have to be 16:9(720x480) so I'll just upload a screenshot from a HQ encode of Titanic in 480p
Not too shabby is it? And this is indeed 480p albeit at 21:9 AR

Now for two different 720p images:
HQ


Not HQ


As can be seen not all 720p is created equal so this validates the point that resolution isn't the most important thing with regards to quality.

This is complete bullshit. Of course this will be close to not noticeable in that case. They are smaller than their native resolution. Are you dumb ?

If you open both pictures in a new tab, the 720 is already way better than 480p even if it's not 720p natif. Now, upscale these two pictures in 1080p and compare them full screen. The 720p will look so much better. Even if both of them looks like shit on a 1080p screen.

[EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/MvhYpD5.jpg ; http://i.imgur.com/nmXuoob.png Open them both in new tab and zoom. Now switch tab to compare. Do you spot the differences ? I don't have a 1080p version of that but it would have look so much better that these pixels. This is a poor encoding btw]

That is what we're talking about. On a 1080p Tv (even a small one, but of course the bigger the tv is, the bigger 720p will looks like crap) the difference is hightly noticeable for everyone. Stop trying to compare them on their native resolution ! You need to upscale the 720p picture to 1080p in order to compare them, and then looking at them on full screen. Even if you don't have a big screen you will easly spot the differences.

It's the same thing on youtube for exemple, the small rectangle is always better looking than in full screen. Unless you watch videos in 1080p you lucky guy.

Now, does it matter ? I think everyone can decide that by themself. It matter to me. I'm used to. I can't watch 720p anymore, it bother me.

On a really big screen, it will be really important.



d21lewis on 23 February 2014
alrightiwill said:
Completely off-topic but as for atmospheric simulation, I always wanted FPS games online maps to have dynamic weather and time. It would add so many different varieties of the same maps adding extra gameplay value. Hopefully MGSV is the first of many games with that sort of idea :)

Same here.  They said the Wii would do that with its Wii Connect 24 feature and I seem to recall zero games actually taking advantage of it.  Things like that are what excite me and only a few companies seem willing to explore.  Kojima one made a game where you needed to harness actual sunlight.  He's probably going to be the one that thinks outside of the box while everyone else follows suit.