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yeah, I don't even use voice commands anymore. the feature in nba 2k14 sucks.

What kinnect still does for me is, sign me in automatically, and act as my mic.......



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When Virtual Reality comes and yes it is on its way here, then people will see how its was good that Microsoft stuck with Kinect.



Vasto said:
When Virtual Reality comes and yes it is on its way here, then people will see how its was good that Microsoft stuck with Kinect.

I agree.... Sony VR and Oculus Rift will move way more gamers than Kinect.



ethomaz said:

I agree.... Sony VR and Oculus Rift will move way more gamers than Kinect.


How much will it cost?



                            

ethomaz said:
In my opinion the only think that differentiates Xbone is Kinect... if you removes it then it will loose in every single aspect to PS4... so it will became a non buy machine.

MS needs price cuts and games... I think the Kinect-less SKU a terrible idea.

Now some user experience with the UI... it doesn't works well without Kinect... it is a mess to navigate using controller on Xbone.... the UI was designed to works with Kinect... so if they choose to go with non-Kinect SKU they will need to make drastic changes in the UI.


This makes sense only for new gamers wondering what side to pick. It's true if you take away the kinect the x1 esentially on the suurface becomes a weaker PS4. 

But I think very few people who bought an xbox one bought it because of kinnect. All that was, was a tool used to kill arguments on why we spent more money..

But the real reason people went with MS was for more ecential aspects to gaming such as

*controller preference

*trust in the online survice 

* ties to the comunity

*years of MS investment

*Titan Fall......ah I mean games.

If anything getting an X1 with the 100 dollar pac in expressed some serious loyalty.

 

With all of that asside kinnect boils down to a wii emulaating gimmick aimed at generating a large amount of non gamer sales. It's aimed at the casuals who I think for the most part are done with the gaming scene after the original wii.

So in the end 100 is a lot of extra cash and what I think it did was drive away a lot of potential buyers. looking at the US market alone were the 360 dominated, the x1 is loosing now why? The pice tag is the main reason I can think of.

 



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Carl2291 said:

How much will it cost?

$150-200? I don't know.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zappykins said:
What a silly article. True, they do need more Kinect games, but that will come with time.

It reminds me of the people that were against building subways in New York City or against making The Grand Canyon a National Park. People with limited imaginations and uninteresting lives shouldn't waste their time telling others why something great will not work. They are always there though.


Nothing will change outside of the secondary use. Nothing a tablet couldnt cure, really better than the Kinect for outside advantages in games. Sony said it themselves, the primary function of the Eyetoy (which is essentially the same as the Kinect) is extremely limited and will lead to nothing but mini-games. Unless they add a peripheral device to the Kinect there will be no depth to what you're already seeing. Its basically the same Kinect, but more powerful. The recognition is better sure, but in the end the only game that will truly use it properly is Dance Central.

In times like these i'd take the advice of the oompany that has been internally creating the same tech for over almost fifteen years over a company who took sloppy seconds and after the first failed attempt is so headstrong they wont accept that it isn't as strong as useful in a primary sense as they wish it was.

The difference between MS and Sony in dealing with this issue is Sony saw that the motion control tech stand-alone with the camera, no matter how powerful is still limited. They knew this from 2003. When the Eyetoy launched they admitted years later that they werent happy with the fact that the camera alone left them stuck in min-game hell so they started developing the tech for what would later on be known as the "Move" in 2004.

I would say the difference is one of the companies is more creative and has been working on similar things.  Arguable Microsoft has been working on similar tech much longer, but either way, they are innovating it more.  It’s too bad Sony couldn’t come up with better ways of using it with Move.  They just made a high tech Wiimote with it.

Even the new Oculus Riff is using similar tech to some of Kinect.

The last major Sony innovation was the walkman.  Everything else has been derivative.  Which isn't always bad – it’s refining, making smaller sizes, etc.  But it’s not creative by it’s very nature.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Bring back 1 vs 100 and add Kinect integration + party chat through Kinect. I loved 1 vs 100 and it is one of the games that was so much fun to play and something truly unique to the Xbox platform. If they improved the design, somehow integrated Kinect to make it a better experience and that would make it a lot more appealing to casual gamers.

There is a lack of Kinect games or innovative ways to use Kinect to make it more appealing as a lot of posters above me have said. These are my thoughts on this subject.



 

 

Too_Talls said:
ethomaz said:
In my opinion the only think that differentiates Xbone is Kinect... if you removes it then it will loose in every single aspect to PS4... so it will became a non buy machine.

MS needs price cuts and games... I think the Kinect-less SKU a terrible idea.

Now some user experience with the UI... it doesn't works well without Kinect... it is a mess to navigate using controller on Xbone.... the UI was designed to works with Kinect... so if they choose to go with non-Kinect SKU they will need to make drastic changes in the UI.


This makes sense only for new gamers wondering what side to pick. It's true if you take away the kinect the x1 esentially on the suurface becomes a weaker PS4. 

But I think very few people who bought an xbox one bought it because of kinnect. All that was, was a tool used to kill arguments on why we spent more money..

But the real reason people went with MS was for more ecential aspects to gaming such as

*controller preference

*trust in the online survice 

* ties to the comunity

*years of MS investment

*Titan Fall......ah I mean games.

If anything getting an X1 with the 100 dollar pac in expressed some serious loyalty.

 

With all of that asside kinnect boils down to a wii emulaating gimmick aimed at generating a large amount of non gamer sales. It's aimed at the casuals who I think for the most part are done with the gaming scene after the original wii.

So in the end 100 is a lot of extra cash and what I think it did was drive away a lot of potential buyers. looking at the US market alone were the 360 dominated, the x1 is loosing now why? The pice tag is the main reason I can think of.

 


Have to agree on all counts.



dane007 said:
@STAGE well it depends. for need for speed it helps alot for accessing GPS. You can't pause the game and acess the gps t find the nearest safe house while being chase by cops. if you pause teh game you will be busted. In thatsesne the kinect is useful and handy. You do know that sony was planning to bundle their PS eye with teh ps4,, hence the design of teh ps4 controller .. The light at the back of the controller,, is an indication to what they had originally in mind. If MS PR didn't screw it up both companies would have released ,, so really sony is not providing any choice. In fact sony is less confident since they back out with bundling their ps eye with the machine while MS stuck with it. How is it shady? MS is trying to do different while sony is just doing same thing every gen by jsut releasing a more powerful console. Afterall consoles are no longer jsut for playing games. What i am saying is that its good to try and create something different and add variety to gaming . Theres no harm it that right? Days of just playing games with yoru consoles is getting less and less . it won't die out but peopel nowadays use their consoles for a variety of reasons apart from gaming. When trying to innovate something ,, you won't be successful straight away,,, it takes time. Kinect may not be of use at this moment but in the long run,, if MS sticks with it,, who knows the potential it could have as kinect 2.0 is a powerful device. At least MS sticking with it and supporting it as much as they an . i wish i coudl say the same for psvita .

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