Can't cut Kinect for the same reasons Sony could not add a second thumb stick to the PSP.
That's like Nintendo dropping the wiiu controller.

Besides it adds tons of value to the XB1, removing Kinect and dropping the price to $399 will give it less value than the PS4 at the same price.

You can unplug your Kinect and use the system, so it's not an essential part of the system except for Kinect games.

May have to spend some time improving usability without Kinect, but they can totally cut it.

It is true that it will still look like worse value than PS4 at $399 without a Kinect, but it'll be an improvement.

1) You're incorrect. A primary controller is what controls the whole system. Cant play proper games with the Kinect unless they are designed around the Kinect. The tech isnt sophisticated enough hence why Sony created the move. The Wii mote was a primary controller for the Wii. Its true value couldn't be realized without it. Do not put your subjective opinion into this. I like the Kinect...but objectively speaking...it is not primary. I also do not see the purpose in its bundling at the moment as nothing outside of the UI is utilizing it.

That  is true but its more coveniant to use kinect to navigate Xbox one. its more intuitive that way. It takes time for it to be sophisticated. So far kinect 2.0 is doing a good job. i can see potential with games as a side on to teh controller. To achieve its vision it has to start from th ebottom,, and as technology gets better ,, easier for teh vision ot be true. The move was worse then kinect as i got one. Was gifetd from my firends. It was accurate yes but it struggled to handle so many enemies on one screen. the lag appeard alot during those situations . The reason for bundling is so that developers if tehy want to use kinect knows that theres an 100% aadoption rate unlike the 360 kinect rate which was alot smaller.  By bundling it ,, developers knwo everyone has kinect so its finacnially viable to use kinect as a function to the core game. 

2) Microsoft has no technical vision for the Kinect, they are just trying to profit off of primesenses work. Primesense is gone off and doing their on thing now. MS is trying to force that device down everyones throat now. Microsoft only pays attention to what sells. They dont care about the quality of the overall product. It was  a fad riding off of the Wii's success. MS knows this, hence why they force bundled it.

And you know this ? Do you work for MS ?  were you in the team when they were discussing abouyt the vision of kinect? I appreciate opinion but its embarassing when you pass it as fact.  Are you pyschic? In fact your claims above is as bad as Patcher XD. MS invested alot in kinect as tehy have a vision to use it. They wouldn't have bought it ,, if  they ha d no vision or no use for it.  You do knwo what a vision to come true ,, it has to start somewhere right?? it jsut can't suddenly be a straight success and please everyone right lol.

3) Incorrect on so many levels. This is Sonys third Eyetoy. They've NEVER FORCED BUNDLED IT.

I was referring to the ps eye on the ps4. it was meant to be bundled but thanks to MS mishap they removed it as they knew if they didn't do it,, they would be financially screwed.. PS move was flop an dwas apretty crappy device. My friends bought me that device for my birthday and that device struggled to play dead space wii game. Couldn't handle so many enemies on one screen.

This is not an arugment. Sorry to say. Was nice chatting.

If this make you feel any better:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/17/andrew-house-sony-computer-entertainment-isnt-allowed-to-fail-anymore-with-ps4/

or if tl;dr

Microsoft can take the risks and be brave or confident or whatever. When Sony saw what happened to MS, they had two choices

1. Die

2. Adapt

Clearly they choose the second one.

dane007 said:

  Sony just cave in to the whinning gamers who only care about is pixels pixels and pixels  

I didn't say they didn't have plans to do it. The Light is pretty damning evidence. But they changed there minds. If we persecuted people for thinking about commiting crimes we would be living in 1984.

Also the light definetly wouldn't help with power if it was off, because its an LED and Leds have low power consumption.

Also as for the porn thing, its not compeletely accurate. It was only one site, XB1 users might prefer different porn sites, plus since more people are using PS4s and Wii U has a larger juvenile thats just a result of the statistics.

Also: Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are working together.

Console Wars are over, Silly Billy.

LOL don't tell me you actually beleive that? Any company fail. you can never be so sure aboutit and to see it won't fail  or cannot fail,, is total BS lol. The only part i agree is that sony  are not allowed to fail. Hence why when it saw MS blunder they removed teh ps eye from teh original bundle and dropped teh price. If they didn't tthen the start of this  gen would have been very interesting lol. Sony just cave in to the whinning gamers who only care about is pixels pixels and pixels  

You misunderstand Dane, you claimed that Sony was not confident like Microsoft by not bundling Kinect.

I just showed you why Sony can't afford to ignore the warnings like Microsoft can. If they can't afford to fail, then they will watch their competitors and learn from their mistakes. Sony can't make any more of those mistakes.

So what if they caved in? Gamer's have the money and control the market, not the manufacturers. If they don't want to fail then they better only care about what the gamers want whether it be pixels or gameplay. If Gamers demand pink consoles that burn jet fuel, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony should ask how pink?