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S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
@STAGE
1) Well i would say so since evertything of xbox one is built around the kinect. when it was always online ,, you need the kinect to switch it on.

2) Well i would say yes especially if a company wants to achieve its vision. You got to start somewhere and you may never get it right straightaway,, butif you keep at it,, then reward will be oustanding

3) Thats because sony saw the level of hate MS got from gamers with what they revealed. Sony is not in financial state to have another PS3 fiasco which saw them lose alot of money. Because of MS blunder they saw tha they had a upper hand to make theiur console more successful then the competiion. If sony experienced another ps3 launch,, who knows what would have happen to them right?


1) You're incorrect. A primary controller is what controls the whole system. Cant play proper games with the Kinect unless they are designed around the Kinect. The tech isnt sophisticated enough hence why Sony created the move. The Wii mote was a primary controller for the Wii. Its true value couldn't be realized without it. Do not put your subjective opinion into this. I like the Kinect...but objectively speaking...it is not primary. I also do not see the purpose in its bundling at the moment as nothing outside of the UI is utilizing it.

That  is true but its more coveniant to use kinect to navigate Xbox one. its more intuitive that way. It takes time for it to be sophisticated. So far kinect 2.0 is doing a good job. i can see potential with games as a side on to teh controller. To achieve its vision it has to start from th ebottom,, and as technology gets better ,, easier for teh vision ot be true. The move was worse then kinect as i got one. Was gifetd from my firends. It was accurate yes but it struggled to handle so many enemies on one screen. the lag appeard alot during those situations . The reason for bundling is so that developers if tehy want to use kinect knows that theres an 100% aadoption rate unlike the 360 kinect rate which was alot smaller.  By bundling it ,, developers knwo everyone has kinect so its finacnially viable to use kinect as a function to the core game. 

2) Microsoft has no technical vision for the Kinect, they are just trying to profit off of primesenses work. Primesense is gone off and doing their on thing now. MS is trying to force that device down everyones throat now. Microsoft only pays attention to what sells. They dont care about the quality of the overall product. It was  a fad riding off of the Wii's success. MS knows this, hence why they force bundled it.

And you know this ? Do you work for MS ?  were you in the team when they were discussing abouyt the vision of kinect? I appreciate opinion but its embarassing when you pass it as fact.  Are you pyschic? In fact your claims above is as bad as Patcher XD. MS invested alot in kinect as tehy have a vision to use it. They wouldn't have bought it ,, if  they ha d no vision or no use for it.  You do knwo what a vision to come true ,, it has to start somewhere right?? it jsut can't suddenly be a straight success and please everyone right lol.

3) Incorrect on so many levels. This is Sonys third Eyetoy. They've NEVER FORCED BUNDLED IT.

I was referring to the ps eye on the ps4. it was meant to be bundled but thanks to MS mishap they removed it as they knew if they didn't do it,, they would be financially screwed.. PS move was flop an dwas apretty crappy device. My friends bought me that device for my birthday and that device struggled to play dead space wii game. Couldn't handle so many enemies on one screen.

This is not an arugment. Sorry to say. Was nice chatting.