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Forums - Gaming - My girlfriend's art teacher said video games are not art. Do you agree?

You are asking people in a gaming forum if games should be considered art or not? If less that 90% would think otherwise I am very surprised. Most people here will feel that what the teacher said is offensive.

Ask the same question in a movie forum and you will have the same results. Or a music forum.

My answer would be that it's a question of definition. What you define as art yourself. If that teacher doesn't think that games are to be considered as art, then fine with me.

I would define many things as art, even a poem.

A better question would be, what is art really? If Halo and Mona Lisa would go into the same category(art in this case) but has no resemblance what so ever.

And what about text-based games? Or early games as pong, just one white dot and two lines on a black background.



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rolltide101x said:

I am absolutety not the artist type but my girlfriend is majoring in Art at our college (I major in computer networking and graduate next semester =) )

 

But I still do not agree with this assessment after playing games like Flower and Journey I think anyone who considers video games as not being art is foolish. But that is just my opinion.... What do you guys think!?


Not just Journey.  Battlefield 4 is art, Demon's Souls is art, and "Shoot em' Up"  (A movie) is art.  As long as someone created something with a little creativity, it is art.  In fact even the word "Art" itself is not even officially defined in many cases.

Your girlfriend's art teacher is self righteous and likes to think she is better than other people (Surprise).  Idk I can't see any other way someone could say that.  Some people are so judgemental about things they know nothing about...



I don't get the idea that art "cannot be interacted with." What is the reason for that? Why is it a rule of what art is defined as? I think it's just an excuse to make artists more of an esoteric subject when it really isn't.



I view that sort of statement in the same light as people who say that types of music they don't like aren't music. It's pretty dumb. Of course video games are art, even non-artsy games.



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I don't agree.

It's like when people say electronic music isn't music because it isn't made with real instruments. And that computers aren't real instruments because (you don't use your hands? no...what is it?).



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People have their own opinions but I see anything that requires creativity a form of art. Including books, movies, paintings, music, video games etc..... heck even technology can be considered a form of art.



I think any art teacher who outright says "this isn't art" isn't a good art teacher. That being said, as someone who has an art degree and who's been involved in art for over 10 years, my opinion is that art is too subjective to truly define what is art and what is not.

If I had to give a strict definition to what is art, I would say that something is art if it was the creator's intention to be art. At the same time, I could very well disagree with the creator of a debatable piece of art. For example, Hideo Kojima once said that he does not consider his games to be art. I can't remember why he felt this way, but I disagree with him. If we were living in a world where everything has to be black and white, I would say "Yeah, Hideo Kojima's games are not art because he says so," but how I feel is different from what he believes which is why I don't like to place strict definitions on what is art and what is not.

In my opinion, videogames are a form of art. They go through the same creative thought process that everything from a painting to a movie goes through. What's also interesting about this debate is that the definition for what is considered art has changed a lot over time. In the early 20th century, filmmaking was not considered by many to be a form of art. Photography wasn't an accepted art form until the 1920's and 1930's. Some people today have a hard time accepting a video game as an art form, but perhaps in 100 years, it'll be as much of an form as painting or sculpture.



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everything belonged to the artificial product is an art. How can people say the most wonderful art is not art ? This irritate me :(:(



The burden of deciding if anything is Art is up to the interpretor. Is Bonsi art? It's a living thing? A tree.

Are paintings are? Well, many people say they are.

How about a chair design? Many people like antique chairs, but also bahouse ones. Because people decide they are.

Video Games are art because I say they are. I can interpret and justify as I could any other legitimate form of art.

Ask this person how much they know about and have been exposed to video games. It usually a judgment made by people that do not know any better. And sounds like it is your obligation to educate them.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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rolltide101x said:
TRAVIS!!! said:
Videogames have an artstyle,, leveldesign, have a soundrack, tell stories and so forth...

how on earth are videogames NOT a work of art?


Because it apparently does not meet the criteria of some supposed artists I guess.

I would be interested to hear their definition of what is considered to be art, because i am pretty sure they would have to include some arbitrary rules to exclude video games from a sane definition.



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