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NintendoPie on 15 February 2014
pokoko said:


The truth is, we need to accept that Nintendo's baseline, at least for the foreseeable future, is going to be lower than the other two, barring they pull another viral experience out of their hat. There is nothing wrong with that, either. They can make a cheaper console with cheaper game development and still do very well for themselves. Their own software sells very well--they just need to turn a profit on everything. Nintendo needs to stay away from the loss leading approach.

This is definitely what Nintendo needs to do. They can't go huge on things, they just need to do it wihtin Nintendo's own terms. Within the realms of Nintendo's reality. Doing things like taking a loss on the 3DS and Wii U are what have really hurt them financially. They don't need to be the chart leader in Hardware. That's not their thing, in home consoles at least. Their thing is that they have extremely strong and popular IPs that sell. All they need is a popular enough and profitable enough vehicle to deliver them in.



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Cobretti2 on 15 February 2014
pokoko said:
Cobretti2 said:
another one of these threads..

anyway ill keep my reply short since most things have been covered.

RETAIN THEIR GAMERS.

It is simple, Kids buy Nintendo systems cause of the great games that fit their needs when they young.

They basically need to start building adult franchises that will entice these kids to stay on their system once they older and want something more mature.

The other thing they need to do is brainwash those kids with marketing games like Nintendoland to introduce new gamers to Nintendos niche characters (in comparison to mario) like Zelda, Metroid. They should run some sort of tournament each week that invovles people playing a mini game for a month. Top score wins some free game. This shoudl be coincided with a new trailer release (i.e. playing that mini zelda game for a month then BOOM anew trailer hits and these kids who have been desperately trying to win a freebie suddenly see a full fledged game of this character coming out.)

They will never get a current embedded xbox or playstation gamer to swap, so the best they can hope for is to get some of them to buy their console as a secondary thing, however for those people they need to release enough exclusives to entice them to buy.

Finally they need to take more risks. When other studios go under put in bids for franchises. (i.e. when THQ went why didn't they bid on anything? lots of decent ips there like darksiders, red faction, homeworld). The first lost opportunity on this goes back to GCN days of the sale of RARE. Nintendo had the opportunity to buy them out. Lots of great exclusives lost there. Then they could use these exclusives to BUILD relationships with smaller talented 3rd parties in the west.

Those are good points.  When I switched from Nintendo, I did so grudgingly.  I wanted to be loyal but the PS1 was showing off all kinds of new stuff.  I was ready for new gaming experiences but Nintendo didn't seem interested in growing much away from a certain style.  Variety is good.  I'm not saying one style is better than another, I'm saying that people are different.  Why just please on segment when you can draw both?

I've been saying for awhile that Nintendo needs to establish a secondary publishing brand for games with higher age ratings.  That way they can keep Mario under Nintendo and Bayonetta type games under another name.  Disney did this with Miramax and no one cared. 


I like the sound of that actually. It may fool some 3rd party devs into thinking 3rd party games do sell well on NIntendo platforms lol.



 

 

reggin_bolas on 15 February 2014
Jumpin said:
Over dramatic Nintendo is doomed thread #314361

These sorts of threads have been going on for almost two decades now. You can safely hold back those tears young boy and realize that each generation offers new opportunities; and Nintendo's hardware staff is at work devloping the way to best exploit them.

Sometimes they fail, but typically companies do not dominate more than 1-2 generations in a row. Nintendo has about a 50% rate of winning generations.


Huh? You do realize Nintendo consoles have been selling less and less each generation. The only exception is the original Wii. So far the Wii U is on the track to be the worst selling Nintendo console since I guess the virtual boy. 

Nintendo is on a downward spiral of irrelevance. 



NintendoPie on 15 February 2014
Lyrikalstylez said:
The problem isn't Nintendo entirely itself but Nintendo fans,
they really need to think outside the box and buy 3rd party games or else your god Nintendo isn't going to survive

This was probably the most objective approach in this thread. Great job.



TheJimbo1234 on 15 February 2014

One major issue is that many of Nintendos games don't cater for a large enough audience anymore.
They need to bring in new IPs that work in this age and let the old ones retire. People want CoD, not Mario. They want Skyrim, not Zelda etc.
So Nintendo need to adapt or they will die out.



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Locknuts on 15 February 2014

I can't see what they (being Nintendo) will actually do. I can see what they possibly could do, but they won't as it involves going full Sony and losing money hand over fist in order to create goodwill for their next console. As far as I can tell, Nintendo will never operate like that.



Slarvax on 15 February 2014
Jumpin said:
Over dramatic Nintendo is doomed thread #314361

These sorts of threads have been going on for almost two decades now. You can safely hold back those tears young boy and realize that each generation offers new opportunities; and Nintendo's hardware staff is at work devloping the way to best exploit them.

Sometimes they fail, but typically companies do not dominate more than 1-2 generations in a row. Nintendo has about a 50% rate of winning generations.

When did I say Nintendo is doomed? I was only asking what can Nintendo do to change the situation they have put themselves in...

I only own Nintendo consoles and they're my favorite company...



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BeElite on 15 February 2014
Jumpin said:
Over dramatic Nintendo is doomed thread #314361

These sorts of threads have been going on for almost two decades now. You can safely hold back those tears young boy and realize that each generation offers new opportunities; and Nintendo's hardware staff is at work devloping the way to best exploit them.

Sometimes they fail, but typically companies do not dominate more than 1-2 generations in a row. Nintendo has about a 50% rate of winning generations.


I guess you missed the decades long fall of their console sales, wii disrupted it and now back to where they were actually they are trending under GC if im not mistaken.   They are on a long path that leads out of hardware, same way atari and sega went.  This industry is not very forgiving and new players enter and rise. 

Its almost a natural progression of leading doing well not so well and out of it, and they are nearing out of it.



Nem on 15 February 2014

xbox talk > Microsoft just need to sell enough to be profitable.

Nintendo talk > The 3DS is a failure compared to the GBA. Nintendoom.

I dont get it.

As for the Wii U, they need to do something/anything. I dislike their passiveness towards the situation. I would like to see them moving and loading the shop with Wii/GC/classic games.
They seem to be having lots of indies, but i would like to see more initiative from Nintendo themselves. I want them to buy some studios or a publisher. Take some risks, show us you have the will to change the situation. That is all that is annoying me on Nintendo right now. They seem conformed with the situation in regards to the Wii U.



TheLegendaryWolf on 15 February 2014
BeElite said:
Jumpin said:
Over dramatic Nintendo is doomed thread #314361

These sorts of threads have been going on for almost two decades now. You can safely hold back those tears young boy and realize that each generation offers new opportunities; and Nintendo's hardware staff is at work devloping the way to best exploit them.

Sometimes they fail, but typically companies do not dominate more than 1-2 generations in a row. Nintendo has about a 50% rate of winning generations.


I guess you missed the decades long fall of their console sales, wii disrupted it and now back to where they were actually they are trending under GC if im not mistaken.   They are on a long path that leads out of hardware, same way atari and sega went.  This industry is not very forgiving and new players enter and rise. 

Its almost a natural progression of leading doing well not so well and out of it, and they are nearing out of it.

They are no where near being out. They have huge cash reserves and literally zero debt, but being a business is about being profitable as much as possible. One thing they do need to  do is to attract a wider audience, the "cores"  and the "casuals,"to sell more consoles (games like SSBU and Mario Kart 8). As of now, they have mostlyattracted Nintendo gamers onto the WIi U, but games like Bayonetta 2 ot X can bring in different people to experience the exclusives the Wii U contains. 3rd Party support has allways elluded Nintendo since the SNES , so the Wii U will not be an exception to that rule.