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Seece on 11 February 2014
eyeofcore said:
Seece said:
zorg1000 said:
Seece said:
eyeofcore said:
Seece said:

January last year was 57k in US, this year VGC has 109k? Why the 100% YoY increase?

Down 38k YOY in Japan, it's possible that WiiU is down WW as well.

I assume WW is World Wide.... This thread compares 2013 with 2014 World Wide/Global sales of the Wii U... Week 1 to Week 5 of 2014 is 14.3+ % up from Week 1 to Week 5 of 2013.

Yes it is, and I think it's overtracked. I don't see any reason WiiU would be up in US (and Europe for that matter) so much YoY. NPD is this Thursday so we'll find out.

Lower price of entry, $299 with no games last year vs $299 with 2 games and 4x storage in 2014. Increased library of games, Lego City, Monster Hunter, Pikmin, Wind Waker, Mario 3D World, Wii Party U are just some of the notable releases since this time last year. Also historically America is by far Nintendo's strongest market. NES, N64, GC all had over 50% of worldwide sales.

Did nothing for December sales YOY, why would it do anything for January?


That's a lie and you know it... If there wasn't for price drop, couple of exclusives being released and Super Mario 3D World being released in November then Wii U could have literally flopped in 2013's holidays... Price drop and Super Mario 3D World saved the day.

Wii U would't sell that well in holidays of 2013 without price drop and Super Mario 3D World. Factual.

Learn to read, I said it did nothing for December sales year over year, which it didn't, that's factual. Was up a mere 4%.



 

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eyeofcore on 11 February 2014
Seece said:
eyeofcore said:
Seece said:

I'm narrow minded because I think it's overtracked (which this site has a tendancy for?) Ok then. Nope...

You are narrow minded because you ignore now well enstablished library with over 100-150+ games with a lot of exclusives that are out now and that are going to be released... Wii U's 300$ SKU is not 8GB storage without any bundled games anymore, now it is 32GB storage with one or two games bundled... Nintendo now markets its console more agressively than before...

I guess you don't understand concept of changes, things change and situations change like it happened with PlayStation 3 and with 3DS... "Miracles" happen... DS was expect to flop and it sold gangbusters and so did Wii.

Just because Wii U sold poorly/badly does not mean that sales won't improve and that the trend would continue...

I smell backtracking come thursday ... the only time WiiU has managed over 100k is in a holiday month. It was barely up YOY in Dec, (21k I believe) which is about 4%? Yet you think it's perfectly normal for it to be up 95% YoY in January.

Just because Wii U managed 100K only in holiday months does not mean that it can't do that this year before holiday months... Are you intentionally ignoring exclusives that will be out on Wii U? The increased value that it has now than year before it got a price drop for its "Deluxe" SKU that is now primary SKU while "Basic" SKU is practically discontinued... It has an appealing library of games... Do you have Monster Hunter on PlayStation 4 or Xbox One? No... Do you have Nintendo franchises on PlayStation 4 or Xbox One? No... Do you have Bayonetta 2, Sonic Boom, FAST Racing Neo on PlayStation 4 or Xbox One? No...

Things change... If things don't change then Wii would still keep selling gangbusters and PlayStation 3 would continued to have poor sales, 3DS would have been in bad position and Xbox 360 would still have a considerable lead over PlayStation 3...



And sometimes, things don't change. Xbox, Gamecube ect. I agree completelly... Yet did Xbox 360 sold nearly as poor as original Xbox? No and did Nintendo's Wii sold as bad as Gamecube? No.

Don't think whatever these companies do is magical and infallible and HAS to work, because sometimes it doesn't I don't think, you are just think that I do because of some predetermined expectaction or you hope so that I do.

Anyway you completely ignored the logic. Nope... You did. Every action has an reaction and effect, otherwise there would not be changes...

WiiU had all of those things in December in the US and was up 4%. Yet you think in January it's fine for it to be up 95%.

...and it was enough for Wii U not to flop in holidays, if there weren't for price drop and Super Mario 3D World then Wii U would have a debacle and its performance would have been laughable. You are just being butthurt... :P

Learn to read, I said it did nothing for December sales year over year, which it didn't, that's factual. Was up a mere 4%.

What? You need to learn to read... I was explaining about entire Q4 which includes December. NVM... You can't connect dots.





binary solo on 11 February 2014
mjo011 said:
Is this US numbers? If so, it should say so in the title

No, worldwide numbers are that low.

A modest increase from a low base is better than no increase at all. But that ain't sayin' much. Those ageing Nintendo franchises better have some juice left.



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Conegamer on 11 February 2014

Good thread, I await to see how it'll pan out in the coming months!



 

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brute on 11 February 2014
Seece said:

January last year was 57k in US, this year VGC has 109k? Why the 100% YoY increase?

Down 38k YOY in Japan, it's possible that WiiU is down WW as well.


You were the one claiming that December was overtracked, and as it turned out it was infact undertracked. Now you're doing the same thing for January eh?

Also in December of 2012 was it launch period, ofcourse it would sell well than, compare December 2013 to November 2013 and you'll see that all those factored in it having the biggest increase from all consoles( Percentage wise ofcourse).



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eyeofcore on 11 February 2014
brute said:


You were the one claiming that December was overtracked, and as it turned out it was infact undertracked. Now you're doing the same thing for January eh?

Also in December of 2012 was it launch period, ofcourse it would sell well than, compare December 2013 to November 2013 and you'll see that all those factored in it having the biggest increase from all consoles( Percentage wise ofcourse).


Exactly... Anyway I decided to look at his profile...

All games are on Xbox/Microsoft platform thus I believe that he is an extreme microsoft/xbox loyalist/fan and he might be annoyed by the fact that Xbox One is currently at 3.4 million versus Wii U that is 5.7 million and Wii U having better sales is a bad news for him and I am not surprised to be honest. Hes British. -_-"

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Mummelmann on 11 February 2014
brute said:
Seece said:

January last year was 57k in US, this year VGC has 109k? Why the 100% YoY increase?

Down 38k YOY in Japan, it's possible that WiiU is down WW as well.


You were the one claiming that December was overtracked, and as it turned out it was infact undertracked. Now you're doing the same thing for January eh?

Also in December of 2012 was it launch period, ofcourse it would sell well than, compare December 2013 to November 2013 and you'll see that all those factored in it having the biggest increase from all consoles( Percentage wise ofcourse).


And the 360 was up about 140% for its second December (700k launch Dec, 1.7 mill the following), the PS3 sold about 750k launch Dec and about 2.2 million following December (close to 200% up yoy). Wii did about 1.9 mill in launch Dec and then about 3.6 million the following December (about 90-95% up). 4% up for the second December is atrocious regardless of circumstances and certainly not the norm.
100% increase yoy in NA seems excessive, we'll know for sure within the week at any rate, especially with Japan being down a fair bit in the same period despite a strong holiday, Japan often has a better January due to gift giving traditions over new year's.

And of course it had the biggest percentage wise increase; the baseline was incredibly low to begin with. All that shows is that the console has serious issues maintaining any kind of monentum outside of holidays, this is hardly good news. A massive percentage wise increase speaks more of the rest of the year than the holidays.

It's not impossible that Japanese numbers are entirely meaningless for comparisons though; it has become a highly volatile market for all consoles. NPD will give us a pointer at the very least.



supernihilist on 11 February 2014
eyeofcore said:
brute said:


You were the one claiming that December was overtracked, and as it turned out it was infact undertracked. Now you're doing the same thing for January eh?

Also in December of 2012 was it launch period, ofcourse it would sell well than, compare December 2013 to November 2013 and you'll see that all those factored in it having the biggest increase from all consoles( Percentage wise ofcourse).


Exactly... Anyway I decided to look at his profile...

All games are on Xbox/Microsoft platform thus I believe that he is an extreme microsoft/xbox loyalist/fan and he might be annoyed by the fact that Xbox One is currently at 3.4 million versus Wii U that is 5.7 million and Wii U having better sales is a bad news for him and I am not surprised to be honest. Hes British. -_-"


i think he works for Msoft. its the only reason i find for his attitude



eyeofcore on 11 February 2014
supernihilist said:
eyeofcore said:
brute said:


You were the one claiming that December was overtracked, and as it turned out it was infact undertracked. Now you're doing the same thing for January eh?

Also in December of 2012 was it launch period, ofcourse it would sell well than, compare December 2013 to November 2013 and you'll see that all those factored in it having the biggest increase from all consoles( Percentage wise ofcourse).


Exactly... Anyway I decided to look at his profile...

All games are on Xbox/Microsoft platform thus I believe that he is an extreme microsoft/xbox loyalist/fan and he might be annoyed by the fact that Xbox One is currently at 3.4 million versus Wii U that is 5.7 million and Wii U having better sales is a bad news for him and I am not surprised to be honest. Hes British. -_-"


i think he works for Msoft. its the only reason i find for his attitude


If that's the case then I can't complain... He is doing his job... LMAO



fleischr on 11 February 2014

Thanks for this!



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