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roborad on 29 January 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
roborad said:
Zekkyou said:
Seece said:
Zekkyou said:

The first game had good reviews and came with the Halo 3 beta and still only pulled off 1.7 million copies. My point is the series is not worth building upon, it's dead as a door nail, so why not make something new?

Because if 3 sells 1.7m it's certainly not dead as a doornail, that's why. It's a lot to just expect a new Ip to do 2m+

If 3 sold 1.7 million copies it would be from it's own merit, not the series name.

Yeah...you're really not making much sense.  

You know why?

Because pretty everywhere I go, all the forums I visit, whenever Crackdown 3 is mentioned, I always see a good number of people in the thread react positively and saying they will buy it for the xbox one, given their past experiences with the original Crackdown.  Now, you're saying that CD 3 would need to completely rebuild their fanbase and start from scratch to build merit, right?  Well, seeing as how a ton of people want Crackdown 3 (and this is even without any Crackdown 3 confirmation or info/media), your argument is terribly flawed. 


What's flawed is your argument, sales = real data, internet forums are such a tiny portion of a games user bae they are irrelevant.

Your response doesn't fit into what we were debating over.  You should re-read all of our quotes so you can provide a proper response.  



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Nsanity on 29 January 2014

Has an insider ever dropped this much info in one day?

Forza Horizon: "Fall 2014, probably September. Super sexy weather system and... shit tons of co-op/social stuff. 1080P and open-world, so you can road trip with your bros." UPDATE: Weather system powered by "the cloud"

White Xbone incoming. UPDATE: In October with "fancy ass controller"

NEW: Limited 1 TB box in November

Why all the leaks? Scared you might get caught? "I am incapable of fear. Plus, this is such exciting stuff, and me talking about it ahead of time isn't going to hurt anything, truthfully. We're all chomping at the bit for it to come out. This is not bad. "

Halo Anniversary 2 will be 1080p, iffy on the 60fps, maybe not.

Quantum Break is Holiday 2014

Multiplayer confirmed for HA2, same devs as Halo Anniversary.

Sunset Overdrive is Fall 2014. UPDATE: October 2014

Is not Phil Spencer

Black Tusk cancelled project was called "Shangheist." May have involved stealing stuff from the Chinese (though I think that may have been a reference to the name and maybe not the gameplay? Not sure...)

Fable Legends is Summer 2015

Halo 2 Anniversary includes beta for Halo 5

Gears of War will probably need a 2.5 year dev time.

First Titanfall DLC is 45 days from release, then another one 120 days from release.

No Crackdown 3 news this year most likely, since it's a 2016 title.

A list w/dates of the rest of the Tier 2 and Tier 3 countries that Xbone will release in this year.

No info/idea on what Rare's up to, sadly.

$399 XB1 this year? "Maybe one without an Optical Disc Drive."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98879891&postcount=1040



Touma on 29 January 2014

Too much infos for believe everything. Good news, it means Halo 5 can be released end 2014 :)



DerNebel on 29 January 2014
Nsanity said:

A list w/dates of the rest of the Tier 2 and Tier 3 countries that Xbone will release in this year.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98879891&postcount=1040

Here are the dates:

Might not be completely up to date, as I tend not to care about anything other than NA and Europe.

April, 2014
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Japan
South Korea
Taiwan
Singapore
Hong Kong

Russia
Sweden
Norway
Finland
Denmark

Colombia
Chile
Argentina


October, 2014
-
China
Poland
Czech Repub.
Hungary (yes, I am. Almost lunch.)
Greece
Portugal
Slovakia

Turkey
Saudi Arabia
South Africa
United Allied Emirates
Israel

India
Indonesia
Egypt

Plus Scandinavia in late April, he says

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98876371#post98876371

Still so far off.



mos712 on 29 January 2014

FROM NEOGAF MOD

Just to be clear; cboat was never formally identified by any of us. He or she developed a reputation by posting obviously real NPD numbers and internal publishing documents years and years ago before most of us were moderators. The reason we verify purported insiders is not to protect us (no sweat off our back to delete or lock the posts or wait until the rumour comes true or false and then perm them or just perm them until what they say comes true) but rather to protect them (so that if they say something and it ends up getting changed--because lots of things are subject to change--we have a basis for believing that they weren't making it up to begin with). When you hear something from CBOAT, your mental filter is "This is a guy who has said a bunch of stuff over a long period of time including some stuff that was obviously true and private but I have no idea who he is and some of it didn't quite shake out in the end."

I have no idea who ntkrnl is. bishoptl (who has been very public about his own name and background in the industry) verified his identity as someone who would in theory be able to know the kinds of things he's saying. We keep confidence of people who talk to us and bishoptl wouldn't and shouldn't tell me who ntkrnl is. When you hear something here, your mental filter is "This guy appears to be verified by GAF moderators as someone who potentially could know the kinds of things he's saying." We can't and couldn't verify that someone is telling the truth, only that they appear to be someone who could know this stuff based on their position or identity. Of course it could also be that he's Phil Spencer and playing a giant trick on us all. If Phil Spencer asked me to vouch for him in confidence, I'd say yes, and then he could post that Microsoft was buying Nintendo and making a game where Master Chief runs for congress, and I'd have no way of determining if that's true or not, only that theoretically someone in his position could vouch for it.

Thuway and famousmortimer have never been verified at all, and in fact they are both abundantly clear that they are NOT industry insiders. They both give their real names and professions publicly. They make it clear that in both their cases, they talk to people in the industry. In FM's case, I think it's not so much that he did talk to people in the industry, but rather his success with the PS4NoDRM thing got him connections to talk to some people in the industry. So when you hear something from either of these people, you know "This is something from people who appear to be connected, but don't have any first hand information because they're not in the industry. So are they using discretion in terms of choosing their sources or the certainly or degree to which they present the claims they heard?"

Three totally separate cases.



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MB1025 on 29 January 2014

People on GAF are starting to get worried because they think this guy is after CBOAT. They think this is some controlled leaked from Microsoft to get CBOAT to slip. The guy keeps trying to get CBOAT to say certain thinks about games.



Jaywood2010 on 29 January 2014
Zekkyou said:


I usually dont like commenting about bundles but InFamous gets bundled pretty hardcore.  Plus whenever selling over 1m copies is small ill never know.  There really is no need on discrediting either series. 

Anyways im not really a fan of either crackdown or InFamous.  Id take InFamous over crackdown but they are so similar to each other and neither gets me excited.  Good news for the people who like the series.




       

Nsanity on 30 January 2014
mos712 said:
FROM NEOGAF MOD

Just to be clear; cboat was never formally identified by any of us. He or she developed a reputation by posting obviously real NPD numbers and internal publishing documents years and years ago before most of us were moderators. The reason we verify purported insiders is not to protect us (no sweat off our back to delete or lock the posts or wait until the rumour comes true or false and then perm them or just perm them until what they say comes true) but rather to protect them (so that if they say something and it ends up getting changed--because lots of things are subject to change--we have a basis for believing that they weren't making it up to begin with). When you hear something from CBOAT, your mental filter is "This is a guy who has said a bunch of stuff over a long period of time including some stuff that was obviously true and private but I have no idea who he is and some of it didn't quite shake out in the end."

I have no idea who ntkrnl is. bishoptl (who has been very public about his own name and background in the industry) verified his identity as someone who would in theory be able to know the kinds of things he's saying. We keep confidence of people who talk to us and bishoptl wouldn't and shouldn't tell me who ntkrnl is. When you hear something here, your mental filter is "This guy appears to be verified by GAF moderators as someone who potentially could know the kinds of things he's saying." We can't and couldn't verify that someone is telling the truth, only that they appear to be someone who could know this stuff based on their position or identity. Of course it could also be that he's Phil Spencer and playing a giant trick on us all. If Phil Spencer asked me to vouch for him in confidence, I'd say yes, and then he could post that Microsoft was buying Nintendo and making a game where Master Chief runs for congress, and I'd have no way of determining if that's true or not, only that theoretically someone in his position could vouch for it.

Thuway and famousmortimer have never been verified at all, and in fact they are both abundantly clear that they are NOT industry insiders. They both give their real names and professions publicly. They make it clear that in both their cases, they talk to people in the industry. In FM's case, I think it's not so much that he did talk to people in the industry, but rather his success with the PS4NoDRM thing got him connections to talk to some people in the industry. So when you hear something from either of these people, you know "This is something from people who appear to be connected, but don't have any first hand information because they're not in the industry. So are they using discretion in terms of choosing their sources or the certainly or degree to which they present the claims they heard?"

Three totally separate cases.

Now this is interesting.



JoeTheBro on 30 January 2014
Nsanity said:
mos712 said:
FROM NEOGAF MOD

Just to be clear; cboat was never formally identified by any of us. He or she developed a reputation by posting obviously real NPD numbers and internal publishing documents years and years ago before most of us were moderators. The reason we verify purported insiders is not to protect us (no sweat off our back to delete or lock the posts or wait until the rumour comes true or false and then perm them or just perm them until what they say comes true) but rather to protect them (so that if they say something and it ends up getting changed--because lots of things are subject to change--we have a basis for believing that they weren't making it up to begin with). When you hear something from CBOAT, your mental filter is "This is a guy who has said a bunch of stuff over a long period of time including some stuff that was obviously true and private but I have no idea who he is and some of it didn't quite shake out in the end."

I have no idea who ntkrnl is. bishoptl (who has been very public about his own name and background in the industry) verified his identity as someone who would in theory be able to know the kinds of things he's saying. We keep confidence of people who talk to us and bishoptl wouldn't and shouldn't tell me who ntkrnl is. When you hear something here, your mental filter is "This guy appears to be verified by GAF moderators as someone who potentially could know the kinds of things he's saying." We can't and couldn't verify that someone is telling the truth, only that they appear to be someone who could know this stuff based on their position or identity. Of course it could also be that he's Phil Spencer and playing a giant trick on us all. If Phil Spencer asked me to vouch for him in confidence, I'd say yes, and then he could post that Microsoft was buying Nintendo and making a game where Master Chief runs for congress, and I'd have no way of determining if that's true or not, only that theoretically someone in his position could vouch for it.

Thuway and famousmortimer have never been verified at all, and in fact they are both abundantly clear that they are NOT industry insiders. They both give their real names and professions publicly. They make it clear that in both their cases, they talk to people in the industry. In FM's case, I think it's not so much that he did talk to people in the industry, but rather his success with the PS4NoDRM thing got him connections to talk to some people in the industry. So when you hear something from either of these people, you know "This is something from people who appear to be connected, but don't have any first hand information because they're not in the industry. So are they using discretion in terms of choosing their sources or the certainly or degree to which they present the claims they heard?"

Three totally separate cases.

Now this is interesting.

How so?



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Xenostar on 30 January 2014
Touma said:

Too much infos for believe everything. Good news, it means Halo 5 can be released end 2014 :)


I cant believe anyone thought Halo5 was ever going to be 2014, theyve only showed a Pre rendered cutscene, thats what you show when you have nothing to show. Same goes for Uncharted 4.